he didn't go through progressions sir, he threw to his 1st read and on many occasions gave it away with his looking in that direction, steering down the WR, etc. What QB were you watching...
Very happy that Hack is making progress. That being said, the most troubling things were where he had to call timeouts at the line because he either didnt like the playcall or didnt recognize the defensive formation. You know the Titans were playing a base defense, so I would be concerned with him in a real game. Not something that cant be fixed with reps, but he has some ways to go yet before being trusted with the keys.
Yeah, that's a good objective, good point. I'm starting get more hopeful regarding ASJ too. I was skeptical, but maybe and can put it together finally. I'd be happy for him.
How'd that work out? When I watched some of those plays, I thought of QB's that couldn't even get to the point that Hack got to. I think he's more advanced than that also.
It will take a while to get the running game going, I'm afraid to tell you. That's the nature of running game in WCO. It isn't exactly hat-on-hat situation. That would simplify things quite a bit, but it just can't be done. OLs that are powerful up front, but agile and fluid by the hips, and nimble on feet are usually 1st rounders. Or - so-called blue-chippers. You know, the kind of commodity Jets do not enjoy at this particular moment. What Walsh came up with is, replacing brawn with brain. So - there you have it. We will employ plenty of stretch runs, misdirections and pulls/traps. [You know, the kind of stuff Failey has no fucking idea about.] What this also means is, the OL will need quite a bit of time to get acclimated to the running scheme. The deal here is, the run blocking scheme must compliment the pass blocking scheme.
Yeah, it's a work in progress, I understand that. And it would help immensely. Just pointing out what needs to be done. In that regard I expect McCown to start the season.
Yes, of course, it was "unrealistic" for the Jets, a franchise so inept that it can't even lose properly and get the top draft picks, to draft a QB with their first pick, and they proved this out. And while the past can't be undone, it can be learned from - at least by successful people - and I can only hope this lesson is clear to Woody and his FO. It may turn out that Hack blossoms into the potential that Macc saw when he drafted him, and believe it or not, I root for that outcome. But if they had Mahomes or Watson on the roster right now instead of McCown or Petty, the future would look much brighter. "Worst" case is that either Hack or the rookie become trading chips for more talent, but the odds would be much greater that we would have the FQB we've needed since Namath. Now instead, if Hack and the younger, hungrier players around him exceed all expectations and the Jets win 6 or more games, it won't necessarily prove that he's the Answer, but it WILL put them in draft purgatory. This was the outcome I was afraid of when I urged them to take their best shot at getting a FQB THIS year, instead of waiting for 2018. Hack may prove to be "just good enough" to get them to the playoffs, but not good enough to get them to a championship, and personally that's not an acceptable outcome after 50+ years.
The thing is, I don't think it was unrealistic for just the Jets to have drafted one of them. I don't think any NFL that had a young QB that they were high on and grooming, would have given up on him before he ever set foot on the field. Woody Johnson isn't "successful," so expecting or even hoping that he will learn from the past may be unrealistic. I think our only hope in that regard is he trusts Mac, that he will listen to him rather than Bowles, and that Mac, hopefully, can and will learn from the past. If not, it may be hopeless for fans like you and me who have reached their breaking points with this team.
Agree. I didn't say he was perfect and I think I pointed out that about head in a swivel improvement.. The 1st progression has been beaten to death already. If the first is open, why not? That's why you call that play in the first place. Particularly as a confidence builder on day one on the job. All I'm saying is that for a first effort, he has shown an incredible improvement over last year.
So my assessment of game 1 Starters didn't play long. mckown looked good going 3/4 with a TD on the drive. hitting anderson on a deep ball and finsihing off with a 4yard TD to peake. Anderson looked great as well showing he could be one of the better deep threats. Hack looked good in a safe plan. high completion % and no INTs. Run game was poor but our top 2 didn't play. O-line help up good and Defense was shut down. Overall a good showing for us
It's seeker of misery? Hardly. What I'm not is Hack's fan base that is willing to wash his balls until he becomes our future QB a decade from now. I don't know what game the Hack fan base watched, I guess they have more than one fantasy in mind for him. He did stare down receivers, he didn't scan the whole field and remarkably the pocket was clean. He dunked and dinked us to a whopping 0 points in 2 plus quarters. I haven't given up on him, he did complete a high number of dinks and dunks, but unlike his fan boys, his pecker isn't in my mouth. He played like Nacho did, and he needs to be something other than that to be on this team for any length of time. We have no choice but to be patient, but being ridiculously patient like so many on this board are, is dumb as fuck and shows ignorance. These are paid professionals, not little leaguers like so many fan boys pretend. Sorry if you include yourself into that group. That's on you and whoever else.
I like this offense for Hackenberg's skill set. Keep him under center. Quick drops, and an easy first read to get the ball out quick. Once a quarterback gets into a rhythm that's when they really start to flourish, and the offense begins to open up if you're methodically driving down the field. Two tightend sets with two legitimate targets are a young quarterbacks best friend. Also gives him the option to max protect more easily if he reads blitz. Keep hitting those short passes for first downs and the defense will begin to react up at which point you can start hitting some things down the field. I like the idea that we seemed to have finally matched a system with a quarterback. The only issue I see is that we need to combine this with an efficient running game. Powell/Forte will help him a ton in the receiving game. We also have surrounded him with a ton of young talent so that he can grow with them. Marshall would've been a complete cancer for him/any young quarterback. This was an encouraging game for Hackenberg. Anyone whom thinks otherwise is just being an overly critical douche. It was also important for his confidence as I mentioned before. The whole league and fan base was waiting for him to fail. He completed a lot of balls so that he can finally settle down and look to build upon his performance rather than worrying about completions and such.
Now, I never played QB in high school, I played WR and Safety, but that just doesn't sound right. Pass on the guaranteed yards in case something better shows up? Sounds like a good way to give the defense more time to react and/or get sacked. I've never heard that one before.
fully agree, my only negatives were that hack didn't lead us to any points (not that he had help with dropped passes and a missed FG) and that mckown looked pretty dam good himself fighting for that spot.
To be fair, in most coaches eye any drive that isn't a turnover is successful. punt if you have to, play field position and live to fight another day. turnovers are killers. If you had to look at 1 stat of who wins or loses a game, winning the turnover battle is almost a guaranteed win
Running game I agree with. Constant short passes are good if we have playmakers at wideout, otherwise you end up punting, or never score. We didn't. I agree with the TE's. It was encouraging that he completed a bunch of passes, I'm ecstatic for that. Major improvement there. It is not encouraging, and anyone who thinks so is a douche. Reason being he has been a QB how long? He can complete passes that the defense bends but doesn't break, but how many yards and points did he tally? That's a downer I don't give a shit who is QB. It's really sad that McClown completes 4 passes and we score, but ass hat completes 18 for less than 130 yards. If this continues, he will not be a future QB. At some point the training wheels will come off. He is a pro athlete, a 2nd round pick for gods sake. Step up and be a man, or scoot over and let a real QB take over. Sorry McClown did that. That should show what Hack is right now. He wasn't worth a 2nd round pick. Would any of you Hack fans trade a 2nd for McClown? Anyone besides me realize that Nacho and Hack play alike for a reason? I guess we will all see. Crow is coming for dinner, Hack fans, or me?
