D'Brick has always been better when he had a solid LG to work next too. When you have to help out inside its a nightmare because the defense is going to take advantage of the problem and then also the player who is "helping out".
At the same time, you don't pay the type of money Brick has been paid to a player that so visibly struggles when he doesn't have help from a support player like a guard
On paper he doesn't sound bad. Of course, I agree with BacktoQueens about needing to know more about his background. My gut tells me that we shouldn't offer above a 5th for him.
They will need to restructure his deal next off-season to open up more cap space. I have said this on numerous occasions; take the remaining cash on the contract - spread that cash out on a 2 year extension. You don't add anymore money to the deal, and you free up cap space. Brick gave up 1 sack last year, we need to improve the interior offensive line. Next draft, we should look at OT absolutely.
Brick played at 290 pounds in college, probably even less. He's probably walking around at 280 if you've ever seen him. He looks really lean, similar to Michael Strahan now. I think he started out at 240 pounds in college, finished at 290 and then gained a bunch of weight for the combine to show teams he's not too light to play LT and be worthy of a top 5 pick. He's definitely not a legit 320 pound tackle. I wouldn't worry about a tackle in college who is still growing not being able to put on 10-20 pounds. Character does worry me a little bit with him but for a 4th or even a 5th round pick I'd pull the trigger.
I think it's more like you can put D'Brick in three possible situations: 1. The guy next to him is a good player, particularly in the run game. D'Brick puts up Pro Bowl seasons when this happens. 2. The guy next to him is an average player. D'Brick has good seasons but not top of his game. 3. The guy next to him is a JAG or worse. D'Brick can struggle, especially in the run game. You really can't have a bad offensive lineman as often as the Jets have managed during D'Brick's tenure with the team and LG has been the bad apple most of the time, with RT the problem when it isn't. You're right that D'Brick is overpaid for his overall production but more than any other unit on the team the offensive linemen are dependent on each other to be at least competent.
Jets have a wealth of developmental young guards but absolutely none at Tackle. As others have mentioned, Brick is starting to lose some pop in the running game & Giacomini appears upgradeable. I'd rather see this kid make the team,essentially redshirt, put on some weight & compete next year. Very little risk in losing a 5th rounder. Chances are the Jets would still go heavy after an OT or 2 via FA and/or draft but this will add an iron in the fire.If the background issues can be managed it'd make an awful lot of sense
nwxt year is too late. we needed to be finding his replacement this offseason and groomnig him to take over next year
At Tackle? I'm not sure I agree w/ this. Yes I'd prefer the Jets have a young solid OT providing depth & waiting in the wings to replace Brick, but let's be honest..there are good 1st round quality OT's in every single draft.It's one of the easiest needs to fill at the top of a draft.Jets just need to commit an early pick or 2 moving forward. Interesting thought: It appears as though the Brian Winters to center experiment is over as Dozier has begun the conversion. Unless he shows immense improvement Winters maybe the first casualty of the guard competition. But as crazy as it sounds it might be worth giving Winters a try at RT. Tackle was his natural position in college & he has done good things in space while struggling "in the phone booth". Maybe he's able to better take advantage of his movement & minimize some of his weaknesses playing on the edge. If he fails..well hey..then he's an easy cut. That'd mean he was ineffective after being given opportunities at all 3 OL positions.Yuck.
Winters was a tackle in college. I thought Winters be at least 1/2 way decent, but man I was wrong. Hopefully, Oday Aboushi continues to progress. Looks imminent that Colon will start once again. People thought I was crazy for wanting Chance Warmack (G) over Dee Milliner in the 2013 NFL draft, but that would've helped out our offense if we look at today. Next season, we need to find an OT via the draft, next year is not too late. The draft will have some good prospects available; but we could be looking at a QB so we will see. Brick has at least another year or 2 in the tank. Breno is bad at RT, can't pass protect. You find someone that can play RT for a year or 2, then make that transition to LT.
Can someone list out a few good LTs and list out how old they are (or were) when still playing at a high level? How old will Brick be this season? A lot of good lineman can play into their mid 30s.
The top 5 LT's (arguably) are all 30+ years old. Joe Thomas (30), Jason Peters (33), Whitworth (33), Albert (30). And you can throw a bunch of other guys in there. Beatty, Jake Long, Duane Brown, Dunlap, Penn etc. list goes on. I don't know Brick but he's a different animal, he doesn't beat his body up, he seems like a guy who really lives healthy, has a good diet. He'll probably be in better shape than the average tackle by the time he hits 35. He didn't really slow down, yet, but he's year to year. I haven't seen him struggle with pass rushers, he didn't lose a step. Maybe this year, maybe in 2 or 3 years, who knows. Does he have another 5 elite years left in him? Probably not. But he isn't about to fall apart either, despite what some people keep saying, what they keep repeating other people hear. Like how he struggled, how he's getting old, lost a step and whatnot. None of that is true. I'd ask anybody who claims that Brick struggled to point out the many games or situations where he struggeld. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen him lose a step, I haven't seen guys run circles around him. He's still a top 5-10 tackle in my book.
Jason Peters you could argue is one of the best LTs in the game today at the age of 33. Brick will be 31 at the start of the season and 32 before the season ends. At least 2 to 3 more years as a Jet.
Brick got beat all the time last season. I have a hard time believing that he only gave up 1 sack. The Oline is awful and Brick is part of the problem. Pressure up the middle and on the left, all season long.
I call bull shit. The only times Brick gets beat is when he's helping inside. He is made for today's edge rushers. He negates Cameron Wake, that's why they move Wake to the LE when they play the Jets. Plane and simple, give Brick a Quality (last 3 guys were below average) LG and he still has 4-5 years left at a high level
funny...just did a quick search in the game threads... typed in brick and found comments of him getting beat week 14 (Vikings) week 12 (Bills), week 7 (Pats) and a false start penalty week 5 (Chargers). In 2013 it sounded like he had a pretty bad season as well. He is not a sure tackle anymore, but he is the best that we have.
The guards are awful, pressure/jail breaks constantly up the middle. Hopefully some of the new additions will pan out. I remember watching Brick get beat on several occasions last season on the outside. He's not as quick or dominant as he once was. I agree that the bad guard play has been a catalyst for bricks poor performance.
False start penalty? That's it, we've got to move on from that guy. Come on, you're being ridiculous now.
