Nate kaeding had a history of missing big kicks, don't settle for FGs and again he missed 2 makeable FGs and we missed one. Not much difference.
this is exactly the point. The chargers couldn't block for LT. LT goes to the jets and he has a good 2 year run. How could that possibly be on Rivers? It's not. The oline was bad in San Diego and much better for the jets. Reverse the roles and Sanchez would have to do a lot more then he had to do for the jets. Didn't sanchez lead the league in mistakes in 2009? He threw almost twice as many INTS as TDs that year...imagine doing that in SD where you don't have the #1 defense or a good running attack to fall back on...I mean instead of the best running attack in football, sanchez would be moved over to the worst while throwing almost twice as many INTs and a worse defense and you think he would thrive and do better than Rivers did in San Diego? Too funny.
Those that blame Norwood either didn't watch the game or don't know football very well. that was a very difficult kick on chopped up grass w/ the pressure to win the SB. That game was won b/c the Giants O held the ball for more than 40 mins and b/c Bruce Smith couldn't get the ball from Hostetler on that sack in the EZ. The Giants didn't have a supposed elite QB that year either and they faced a DYNASTY team on the road, a little different than a 9-7 jets team w/ a rookie QB, right?
LT wasn't very good here, he had an excellent start to 2010 but was pretty terrible the last 3 months. doing what he did in 2009 in SD they still win the division b/c that div was so weak.
Feely didn't miss one. Sometimes you have to settle for FGs, especially against the #1 defense. And even if the chargers had to settle for FGs that doesn't necessarily fall on Rivers solely.
Again, its not fair to say Sanchez didn't make mistakes and made big plays when he had to and then take away from Rivers for not doing enough on game tying and winning drives.
They won 13 games. 6 games are against the division...and one of their 3 losses came against the division. They went 8-2 outside the division. LT did just fine and I believe scored 2 TDs in the wild card game. LT didn't do that his last 3 years in San Diego because 2 of those he was injured and his last year his oline was terrible. Sanchez didn't do that. The jets oline did.
You dodged Joe's point. The giants kicked 5 FGs to get to the super bowl. Sometimes in a defensive struggle where points are at a premium your kicker needs to step up and make a fg.
my mistake, got confused w/ the next week. Rivers has to put up more than 14 pts, their last TD was b/c we went prevent to even make the score close. he got the ball almost in FG range to tie that game, the D set that up. that GW drive was all Sproles. but they could have lost 5 more games and still won the division. there was much more wiggle room out there than in our division w/ NE. LT scored 2 TDs from about 1 yd out each. did Rivers set them up deep for easy TD runs? No I didn't. The Giants had a backup QB in the game against a dynasty team on the road. did you expect Hos to light up SF?
you said don't settle for FG's. Sometimes you have to in order to win. I feel like you're not giving the Jets D their due. All in the name of blaming Rivers.
I seriously doubt the jets let Rivers march down the field and score before the 2 minute warning. His team even got penalized 15 yards when Jackson kicked the challenge flag. He did get them 1 yard out...Rivers ran it himself for the TD. Rivers led the drive to the 9 yard line for the game tying FG....apparently that's a big deal considering their kicker has a habit of missing clutch kicks, but now it doesn't count because they were almost in FG range already? Really? a 55 yarder? for Kaeding...? Who cares who the prime person was on that game winning drive. Rivers led it because hes the QB. If it failed and the colts won the game, rivers would get the blame, right? LT did better in 2010 and 2011 then he did in 2009. That has nothing to do with who is better between Sanchez and Rivers.
My bad, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. : ) Do me (and yourself) a favor: don't play the "don't know football/average fan" card here. It sooo doesn't fly here, especially with respect to special teams. Beyond that though, you missed the gist of my post: no one was blaming Norwood and the point was NOT about Norwood (or the SB). The question centered on how the NYGs got to the Super Bowl, i.e. illustrating the fact that FGs (while not preferrable to TDs) are sometimes a necessary take-what-you-can "evil." In the case of the NYG NFCCG win, they were their ticket to the SB (that and knocking Montana out).
You can break down football games and actually discuss football until you are blue in the face and it won't matter because junc makes his analysis based on the name on the back of the jersey and what the media tells him to believe. This has actually been proven btw. It is a good time waster but not too good for the blood pressure
Our D blew a million games late, a week later they'd blow a double digit lead. our D was good/very good. it was NOT a great D. another another useless, misinformed post from you. I don't follow who the media tells us is great, that is what you guys who can't think for yourselves do. I have nothing against rivers personally or Manning or any of the guys I HONESTLY discuss. it's all about football, I happen to like some of them, I have met some of them and won't say anything more than that. I am not biased, I discuss honestly and intelligently. you should try it sometime.
Junc is a trolling moron, always has been. I can't even read more than two or three of his posts at a time. Rivers was considered washed up but had one of his best seasons ever and won comeback player of the year once Norv left Sproles has been better on each team he's played on since leaving Norv Vincent Jackson despite being older had the best seasons of his career once he left Norv Norv has been a shitty coach everywhere he's been. Right now he has one of the best playmakers in the NFL on his team, a guy that is literally scoring a TD every third carry and he can't figure out how to get him the ball. He's the one that held those A+ talent teams back. Blaming it on Rivers is pure retardism.
compelling argument. the coaches change, the players change, the QB stays the same and the results stay the same in big games. Must have been Norv's fault. stop w/ the childish attacks just b/c you don't understand this game.
