Harrison is great, but if the Jets have to choose, I'd rather keep Wilkerson. Wilkerson would probably command more on the open market, but the Jets can franchise him, and htat gives them some small but still real leverage. Harrison is going to want top dollar on the market, and there's no hometown discount.
I'd really prefer Mo-Snacks-Leonard. I don't trust Sheldon to stay out of trouble, and I am almost certain he's going to hold out if he doesn't get a ridiculous paycheck in a few years when his contract is up. Even if Mo is expensive, he'll be an expensive long term asset who will be a great teammate and class act. Even M0-average NT- Leonard would be preferable to banking on Richardson.
While that's a good point, who said anything about not having a good run stopper? The issue was a great run stopper or the best run stopper in the NFL as some posters claimed. Mo, Richardson and Williams are all good against the run. I'm sure with another talented NT the Jets would still be good vs the run. They don't have to be in the top 5 vs the run to be successful.
No, he isn't, but maybe if the Jets let go of one of the talents on the DL (Mo) they'll be able to get that best pass rusher on the roster.
Of course he's going to say he wants to, even if it's nothing else but a ploy just to drive the price up if he tries to trade Mo. He may even mean it, because if he can figure out a way to do that AND add a speedy pass rusher, the Jets could truly have a dominant D that would take them places. If he can do it, imo he deserves Executive of the decade and maybe even immediate election to the HOF. I think it's going to be that difficult without screwing up the cap a few years down the road. I hope he can. You never want to trade away good young talent that you've developed, or see them walk away in FA. Unfortunately, that's not the reality under the cap.
The problem with the bolded sentence is that the two are mutually exclusive. If Sheldon can't stay out of trouble, he'll never get that ridiculous paycheck. If he can stay out of trouble, he'll probably earn that ridiculous paycheck. I hear what you're saying...of the two, I'd much rather keep Mo. I had never even heard of Richardson when the Jets drafted him. Trading Mo won't get the Jets back much and it won't really help the salary cap, and the salary cap is the issue. If it weren't, trading Mo wouldn't even be a consideration, nor would letting Snacks walk.
Perhaps. Tamba Hali and Demarcus Ware will be FAs. Are they mediocre? At their age, they may not get more than $7 million per, and it would only be for a year or two. If the Jets could sign one of those and then draft a young OLB and let him learn from Hali or Ware, would you sign up for that? The other issue is this...even if the Jets couldn't sign anything but a mediocre pass rusher for the money that Snacks wants, the Jets could use that money to perhaps sign a quality FA RG and TE who would become starters and be much better than the players they replaced, THEN the Jets would be free to focus on going after a pass rusher in the draft if there's one they really want. It's about improving the overall team and not just one unit or one position group.
They aren't mutually exclusive at all. He could stay out of trouble for a while, hold out for a fat paycheck, then get in trouble when he comes back and screw us all the more.
While it wouldn't be my first choice, there are worse options than contracting Mo all the money it would take to resign Snacks now, as well as the money it would take to resign Sheldon when his contract is up. Just figure what we've already offered Mo, plus Snacks salary over replacement for the next few years, and Sheldon's salary over replacement down the road....should be plenty to sign Mo to a medium- or long-term deal.
Yes they are. If he stays out of trouble, he gets the paycheck. If he doesn't stay out of trouble, he never gets the big paycheck. No team is going to pay him a huge amount of money if he keeps getting into trouble and suspended. The example you quoted above doesn't apply at all. What happens after he gets the paycheck is an entirely different matter, and I'm sure that any team that gave him that big paycheck would insist on a behavior clause that would void the contract or allow the team to recoup much of the money if he got into trouble again and suspended.
It does apply. The loss to the Jets isn't the money at that point, it's the fact that they have no personnel because they saved their money up and blew it on Richardson, who, in this scenario, is suspended anyway. Think about it... we trade or otherwise lose Mo before Richardson's contract is up, we send Snacks packing because he's too expensive, too. We still have Sheldon and Leonard, so we don't put any other FA dollars or draft picks into the DE position. Then, whoops, Richardson slips up again. Sure, we get the money back, but who the hell plays his position? Some JAG who signed for the minimum so we could afford to get Sheldon back from his hold-out.... Opportunity costs are higher prices to pay than money or cap space. --I'm not saying I dislike Sheldon Richardson at all. I hope they guy stays here and racks up 400 sacks. But today, given the option of Richardson-Snacks-Williams vs Wilkerson-JAG-Leonard three or five years from now, I'm betting on Wilkerson over Richardson and Snacks.
Most ppl would prefer Mo over Richardson. But I'll take Richardson and Snacks over Mo and some fat lackey trying to play NT.
Richardson should be extended now while his price is as low as it is ever going to get (I hope). Mo will get more for us in a trade than Sheldon and would take more cap space as well. Snacks has earned his $6-7 mil and we should pay the man.
Sigh. The point that was being discussed was that he wouldn't get the big contract if he didn't bring his conduct under control and stay out of trouble. Period. That's it. Nothing else is relevant. No team is going to give him a big contract if they think there's a chance in hell that he's just behaving for a year or two so he can get paid, then go back to doing whatever he wants. They're going to do their due diligence and he's going to have to prove himself. Any contract would be low, with incentives for achievements on the field and a clause or clauses tying whatever he gets paid to his conduct.
Richardson is entering the last year of his rookie deal. I don't see why we can't extend him now even though I could see that we would be talking a risk. Williams is a whole different story, he just got here.
You don't get to decide that the impact of personnel decisions is limited to contracts and personal conduct, so I'll bring up whatever aspects of it I'd like. Opportunity costs are a real thing that actually affect roster makeup (see: Drafting NYJ drafting Geno Smith in 2013, then passing on Teddy Bridgewater in 2014 because they had already had their QB, for example). There is a very real possibility that shipping off Mo and counting on Sheldon could leave us with neither, and, from the looks of things, likely without Snacks to boot. I want to see Leonard Williams, two JAGs, and Richardson's contract refund rack up some sacks.
