It most certainly does. The ONLY purposes for the Jets this season should be to determine whether Hack or Petty can be their QB of the future and to develop their young players/determine who can help them going forward. Nothing else is as important
Add to those facts that AFAIK, the Jets' QB Coaches have never developed a young QB, their HCs have been absolutely clueless, if not apathetic about offense, their emphasis has been on D for the past decade, and they've practically ignored the offense in the draft and FA, and it's little wonder that any and all QBs we've drafted have failed .
it could be fixable, or maybe not. we won't really know. but we spent years trying to fix sanchez and it got us nowhere. some players aren't fixable, some are. Right now we are working on hack, we can't work on too many Qbs at once
Cant work on too many QB's at once? Sorry that makes no sense. I think I have laid out arguably decent reasons to think Petty is a better guy to "work" on in 2017 than Hack. Rather than writing him off. I have heard nothing factual and negative about Petty to refute this. No reports that he is stupid, or cant hit the ocean...
Viable... if Petty won the starting position, I think he would need stats comparable to Derek Carr's rookie year. So 58% completion percentage, 3,300 yards passing, 21TD's, 12 INT's. In Carr's rookie year his top WR targets were Andre Holmes, James Jones and Mychal Rivera. So Carr was able to have decent success with a mediocre WR core. Petty would have to do the same. I think it would be unfair to ask any Jet QB to throw for 3.800 and 30TD's with this young WR group. Carr's stats improved when the Raiders drafted Amari Cooper and signed Crabtree. However, if Petty puts up numbers similar to Geno Smiths 2 years, (55% comp percentage, more INT's than TD's) then you hand over the reins to Hack or player TBD and move on. You can then be very confident he will be a perennial backup in the NFL and can decide whether he should stay on the Jets as a backup or move to another team. This year will define Petty's career. By the way, in 4 game starts Petty had a 56% completion percentage, 800 yards passing, 3 TD's and 7 INT's. So spitballing out to 16 games, he needs to improve his completion percentage a bit, his yards are on track, but he needs to throw more TD's and cut down on the picks big league. But I think Petty can do it with a full training camp working with the ones.
I think that's a fair test for him. If he passes, he gets the job, or at least proves he can be a starting QB somewhere. And how many of the INTs were due to the situations he was put in and the lack of quality practice with the starting team? Gailey often had him throwing downfield which could increase his picks. From the little I was able to see of him, he seemed to have a better arm than Fitz, so that's an improvement. I'm in the camp of letting him try and win the job, and not defaulting it to Hack, even if they draft Mahomes or someone else. I would give Petty first shot.
If Petty put up those kinds of numbers, he would be the best Jet QB since Favre and very likely the franchise QB the Jets are looking for. That is what I think the bar should be. Otherwise keep looking. But give him a real shot.
I didn't say we should write him off, but there are only so many reps to go around. petty, hack, and a possible draft pick this year? none will get enough reps to develop if we work on them all. and that doesn't include josh who may start for us and will need to learn the offense and build chemistry with the WRs. so 4 Qbs all taking reps? not a good scenerio. the consensus seems to be petty isn't starting QB material.
we haven't seen anything from hack other then the current GM was very high on him. But I've seen enough from petty to know he isn't our long term solution. and the jets seem to agree. they even kept geno around last year knowing they weren't going to retain him for 2017 because they didn't trust petty. footwork is about the easiest thing to fix on a QB
You say "I didnt say write him off" in one response, then two minutes later you say you've "seen enough to know he isnt the Jets long term solution." Isnt that a bit inconsistent?
writing him off would mean that he has no value at all. sanchez i wrote off, geno i wrote off. I think petty has value as a solid backup in the NFL and a decent spot starter for a game or 2 but he's not someone i want the team betting on fir the next 5 years as the starter. so no writing someone off and saying they aren't a franchise QB are 2 separate things. I'd like to keep petty around as a backup and i'm ok if he had to come into a game or 2. there are worse backups in the NFL then petty for sure. But he isn't our future.
I think they might draft a qb and put him on the self this year again. petty, hack, mccown battle for 2 spots.
If they draft a QB - and I hope they do - it had better be someone who they think might be able to play this year, if not right away, and someone who is better than Petty or Hack. Then they need to drop either Petty or Hack and go with three.
i honestly do not think a qb that can play this year is available and while i wouldn't be adverse to a rookie winning the job, its time the nfl got back to the long approach with these qbs. they are just not ready for the pro game. i'd have no problem with a redshirt 2nd year qb entering camp every year until we find the answer.
