Petty is a more viable starter than Hackenberg (at this time)

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  1. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    None of this matter because Bowles will play McNown all year, regardless of record, barring injury. Didn't you see the way he clung to Revis and Fitz last year, two of the worst players in the league? Todd Bowles plays washed- up veterans regardless of performance.
     
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    As long as the Jets are losing it doesn't matter who is on the field.
     
  3. Zach

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    Welcome to the dark side. I've been waiting for you.
     
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    I never objected to the Wally Pipp part (I agree there), only your implication that Prescott wasn't impressive. And sure, if you want to argue with hard-core logic, you're technically correct that by not being impressed yourself your statement was true. But did you really have that distinction in mind until I brought it up? :)
     
  5. Zach

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    I still don't think Prescott would have won the starter job without Romo's injury.

    That said - I didn't even bother checking how awesome Prescott was during preseason. [For the same reason I don't pay attention to Jets QBs during the preseason, no matter how rosy their prospects are for the coming season.] I knew he was having good preseason (headlines tell that much) but then that was that - preseason. I don't think I am alone in this boat either. Of course I knew some were pretty impressed with Prescott [since I have two friends who happen to be Cowboys fans.]
     
  6. Passepartout

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    Yeah as just hope that Prescott does not suffer that of a sophomore slump. But still think that Petty hopefully will take the leadership role as well as the QB. He is more viable indeed.
     
  7. HomeoftheJets

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    I agree, the Cowboys would've kept Romo as the starter because Romo is a very good QB and preseason stats aren't good predictors of regular season success. Normally I discount the preseason entirely, but occasionally a QB looks so good or bad in the preseason that I take note. Prescott was one of those exceptions and unfortunately so was Hack.
     
  8. Acad23

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    The Cowboys tried to draft Cook or Lynch, before "settling" for Prescott.
    The guy ahead of Zak on the depth chart got injured before Romo did.

    Prescott beat out Jameill Showers (?) for the backup role. Some say Showers looked better on the field...but the coaching staff chose Zak. That's all according to wikipedia

    The Cowboys were also trying to trade for McCown as well...so if Dallas is decent at evaluating QB's, then maybe that bodes well for us...if we want to win games that is. Ha.

    Having a very good OL always helps.
     
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  9. Zach

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    I happen to think that, whoever comes to NY to play QB position is almost always given a raw deal. Don't just take my word for it.

    For the past decade, Jets hired these morons for OC:

    Brian Schottenheimer [Yuck]
    Tony Sparano [Holy fuck]
    Morningwood [Fuck]
    Failey [Fuck]

    Mighty fine line up to nurture the QB of the future right there.

    In the meantime, good offenses almost always kept their continuity in terms of offensive system and philosophy.

    And Jets OL used to be good at one point, but by now their protection is at best shady. It is for this reason that, I think Jets would have ruined Prescott if they drafted him. [Good thing he ended up in Dallas.]
     
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    Gailey wasn't nearly as bad as those other coordinators.
     
  11. Zach

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    That's the problem. Mediocre OC is the best of the bunch. [Sigh...]

    And Failey was the Dolphags OC during the Monday Night Miracle, believe it or not.
    [That's basically textbook case of "How to blow 23 point lead in 4th quarter."]
     
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    This is exactly what the Jets have lacked since Namath.
     
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  13. GasedAndConfused

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    well to be fair, he played alot of reps with anderson and it showed on the field. he was better off with anderson , enunwa, peake etc as that's who he had reps with anyway then he would have been with marshall or decker since he never threw to them. anderson was clearly his favorite target and they clearly had chemistry.

    I'm sure bellichick's system had something to do with it.
     
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    If he does, then I think it will be Bowles last season with the Jets.
     
  15. PulseJet

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    Anderson's stats with Petty:
    LAR: 3 catches 69 yards
    IND: 4 catches 61 yards 1TD
    SFO: 6 catches 99 yards
    MIA: 4 catches 80 yards 1 TD

    So 4 games, 17 catches 309 yards 2 TD's. I dont count NE because Petty was knocked out early.

    For 2016, Robbie had 42 catches for 590 yards and no other TD's with Fitz or Geno.

    For all those folks that complained that Fitz couldnt leverage Devin Smith's speed the stats with Robbie @ Fitz vs Robbie @ Petty tell that tale starkly.

    Extrapolate Robbie's 4 games with Petty and thats 1,200 yards and 6 TD's for a full season. Just spitballing of course but thats damn good. If I was Jets OC and I seen that kind of chemistry with a UFA rookie WR and a 2nd year QB I may be inclined to see how that pans out. Wouldnt you? I'd also pair Petty with Enunwa during TC to see if the same can be done with them.
     
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  16. GasedAndConfused

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    I agree anderson really shined under petty who has a bigger arm then fitz, plus fitz loked too often to marshall because chemistry/friendship. I'm really excited to see what anderson could do for us. but petty wasn't exactly doing great, it was more of giving anderson an opportunity and anderson made plays for us. he could have had a lot more yards and TDs had petty not missed him so much. there were a couple of throws i remember with anderson wide open for a TD beating the defender by 5 yards and petty overthrowing him somehow.



    alot more anderson looking good then petty IMO
     
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    I'd like to see what Petty can do with a real Oline and a modern OC instead of that all-pro crew that almost got him killed several times last year. I just hope he hasn't been beaten into a mental pulp with the pounding he took.
     
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  18. Zach

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    Remember that the majority of 1st team snaps went to Shitz.

    With Failey retiring - there is no more point to defend the Shitz signing last year. The only reason I supported Shitzpatrick starting last year was, because I believed that 1 more year could help Petty learn Gailey's system. Now with that system in the trashcan, it all looks like disaster. [If Failey was retiring at the end of the season, he shouldn't have returned last year. His return stunted the offense for one year at least.]

    For this reason, Petty's go-to guy was Robby Anderson. [And it showed.]

    I don't know if Petty will get another shot, but he looks like a starter to me. An inexperienced one, but a starter nonetheless. I want to see what he can do, given decent protection and sufficient practice snaps. [Which he had virtually none last year.]
     
  19. PulseJet

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    Yeah he missed a decent few of those longer passes to Anderson, particularly in the Colts game. But is it fixable? I think reps will tell the story.
     
  20. jdon

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    Petty does not look like he can take the beating.
     
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