Petty is a more viable starter than Hackenberg (at this time)

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  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    That's not the right question. The right question is "why did Dak Prescott take the Cowboys job and run with it after Romo got hurt while Bryce Petty avoided taking the job from the likes of Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2015 and Christian Hackenberg in 2016?"

    This is on Petty. Yeah, the Jets suck at developing QB's but the only QB the Cowboys had developed since Aikman was Tony Romo. That's two guys in going on 30 years now. Romo took the Cowboys job in the mid 00's. Prescott took the Cowboys job last year. Petty sat on his couch and tried to figure out the NFL through Madden...
     
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  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    same thought process, but dak played and made the cowboys forget about romo, petty played and made the jets like josh mcnown. one team was pleasantly surprised, the other was right about their draft grade
     
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  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    One team knows how to develop a QB and the other hasn't developed more than 2 QBs in the past 40 years and they both had a ceiling of barely above average.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You don't have to develop a lot of QBs when you do it right and the guy lasts more than a decade.

    How many QBs have the Patriots successfully developed in the past 30 years?
     
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    i don't know if the boys had dak long enough to give them a lot of credit for this season other than putting a good squad around him and the jets regime has only been in place 2 years so i don't want to say they can definitively not develop a qb. petty has made some progress and could be a career backup,spot starter. we have no idea what hack is yet. i can't hold them to past qb struggles since they are relatively new here. lets see what the year brings for both teams
     
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    Tom Brady
    Bledsoe

    That's it.
     
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    to be fair they got guys who looked good enough in spot duty to give them trade value. matt cassel, ryan mallett, and even garapollo this offseason could have netted them a 1st. even though the 1st 2 didn't pan out.

    Atlanta has done well too. they had vuck, drafted shcaub, he looked good in spot duty and they traded him for a good return, shaub turned out just decent , vick got suspended and they drafted ryan who has done well. chargers did it with brees and rivers although brees didn't net them anything but a comp pick
     
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  8. PulseJet

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    That really wasn't a fair shot. He was third on the depth chart with minimal reps and when he finally got the chance the OL was decimated and guys like Marshall gave up. Gailey was out the door. Decker was on IR.

    And I don't really trust Bowles decision making when it comes to talent and how to train up players.

    But your right he should have beaten out Geno. From what I seen in the preseason games Petty looked better than Geno. Geno looked godawfull. So not sure what went on there.
     
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    Why would they do that? Petty's further along than Hack, and if the Cowboys accepted the offer, it would force the Jets to have to draft a QB or only have 2 QBs.
     
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  10. Greenday4537

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    Did they look good because they are good or did they look good because they are on the damn Patriots?
     
  11. tbruner12

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    I agree with everything you said, but I'm not so sure about McCown. For all we know he may work out and be our starter for the next 4-6 years. It could happen
     
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    Yeah the Ford Pinto is more viable than the Yugo

    Wow impressive analysis
     
  13. Zach

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    You speak like Prescott would have lifted Jets offense if he had been drafted here.

    1. Prescott didn't wow everyone. He simply wally-pipped into his job. Make no mistake about that.
    2. Ask the same question to Herm Edwards regarding Jerricho Cotchery. Some retards have die-hard loyalty even with the world of fails coming down on it.
    3. More fitting question would be - let's say, for this moment, Petty was in Dallas, and Prescott was in NY. Tell me Petty still won't stand out. And somehow Prescott would rise above. That's what your question boils down to.
    4. Last, but not the least - QB draft is a crapshoot at best. Jets should learn their lessons. They were very lucky in this regard actually - they got more than one starter-quality QB from first round pick during their franchise history [Namath/Pennington] The same can't be said for many other franchises.

    P.S. I think abyzmul's point was just that too; that most NFL teams have no fucking clue as to how to evaluate a QB. So the entire NFL thinking Petty is a backup material is basically meaningless. If they were so accurate in their assessment of QBs, Prescott shouldn't have lasted until round 4. [Or that's how I understood his shot.]
     
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  14. HomeoftheJets

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    Prescott absolutely wowed everyone. Romo got hurt in the third preseason game. Through the first two, Prescott was 22/27 for 338 yards, 6 TDs, 0 INTs, and a 156.4 rating.
     
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    We have McGown Petty and Hack ..our supposed future QB

    B Pryce is a great kid but was a 4th round pick. IMO he is backup material only from what Ive witnessed Putting him through a QB competition in a year we essentially need to tank to get our 2018 gem at QB is stupid Let Hack relieve McGown at some point in the 2017 epic fail and leave it at that folks. Send Petty with our deadweight SheldonR to the Boys or some other team and stockpile some 2018 picks. Rebuild onward...Grab a 4th rounder QB in draft

    Absolutely on board with the idea to use him as trade bait (most 4th rounders are used that way anyway)

    jmho
     
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  16. Zach

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    Obviously you don't understand what [Wally-Pipping] is.
     
  17. Br4d

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    Neither do you if you think Tony Romo was a Wally Pipp level starter waiting for Lou Gehrig to show up and take his job when he took a day off.
     
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    By now, Wally-Pipp largely refers to losing the starting position due to injury. [Historical background notwithstanding.]
     
  19. HomeoftheJets

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    Obviously you don't understand I was addressing the Prescott didn't wow everyone part, not the Wally Pipp part.
     
  20. Zach

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    I know what you were talking about. Was that enough to supplant healthy Romo? [Hence Wally Pip.]

    And refer back to what I said:

    I said "Prescott didn't wow everyone." Some were impressed. Some weren't. [Like myself.] That's not to say Prescott didn't impress anyone.
     
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