per KFFL-Jets | Team still trying to trade for Ramsey

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  1. Kentucky Jet

    Kentucky Jet Active Member

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    YES, I am serious! Do not overvalue JA. Who wanted him last year? Not one team bit on him. Maybe we can get a nother pick as well as SCHAUB. Fine. You apparently know very little of the FALCONS and SCHAUB. The guy is behind VICK. How could he be a starter? Yet hwne he gets in the game he always does fine. He was excellent in college. If we are a true WCO team he is an option. And pal, we all have opinions and come here to expreess them. Since you asked I propose taking either MARIO WILLIAMS ot Da BRICK. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! Yes we need to rebuild the pffense but SCHAUB and JACOBS would help the QB situation greatly. I happen to believe that the Ol has some guys we can build with like MORELY, JA, CAVKA, and we will draft another RT and be much better off. I like BLAYLOCK and HOUSTON and there are several very good RBs in this draft! So there are many ways to skin a cat! Not just you opinions count!
     
  2. jhsensation10

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    is this guy being serious?? where do u think we are gonna get the money for that?? why not trade down and fill more holes at a cheaper rate?? we have drafted defense for the last few years now.. when are we gonna start on the offense... please read my thread on the QB RB and OL situation and tell me if there are any loopholes.. i'd rather have giles and mangold than goodwin and cavka.. there was a reason they were second string.. i never said your opinion dont count but they just dont make sense..

    this is your opinion:
    QB: schaub/jacobs
    HB: blaylock, houston
    T- d'brickashaw
    G-moore
    C-goodwin
    G-cavka
    T-jones

    this is mine: check out my thread on QB RB OL help
    QB- quinn
    RB- white
    T- jones
    G- giles
    C- mangold
    G- moore
    RT- BPA (winston, trueblood)

    which one is better while mine saves us a ton more money this year while we are cutting pennington?? i mean its just such a disparity that i am beginning to think you dont know much and just like yelling defense wins championships!!! no kidding, but we also need some ppl on offense to put up some points not to mention that we have drafted defense for the last 4 years..
     
  3. Kentucky Jet

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    you obviously think a lot of yourself. You do not know what you are saying but you are saying a lot of gibberish! We are going knowhere this year sonny. This is the year to build for the future! DEFENSE does win CHAMPIONSHIPS! See NE, Balt etc. But I do not need to prove anything to you little boy. JA does not have the strength to be a great LT. We need the BRICK or mcneal. I never mentioned GOODWIN sonny. You did that to try to denigrate me. GROW UP!
     
  4. chow184

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    from what I can tell Gibbs got there,didn't like what he saw in Ramsey so he traded for a stopgap guy in Brunell,and got his youth in Jason Campbell.

    we aren't in that bad of cap hell as the media would like you to think.

    we are a few re-structures and pro-rations away from a total of 89 million,6 million under the cap. We will be in even better standing if a new CBA gets done.

    I would take a 4th round pick for Ramsey if it was the only offer on the table
     
  5. kinghenry89

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    As stated above, I hope that you mean skins future 1st rounder + Ramsey = John Abraham.

    Like him or not, Abraham is a top 10 defensive end in the NFL. I don't believe it, but one can easily make an arguement for him being top 5--in any case he is the most important player on our defense. Offenses don't gameplan for Ellis or Vilma or Law, they worry about where Abraham is on the field at all times and create whole blocking schemes to deal with him. That says something.

    Ramsey is not an awful QB. He's never really gotten a fair chance at being an NFL starter, and the Jets worst case scenario with Ramsey is that they can draft D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Mario Williams or DeAngelo Williams (likely in a trade down.) That being said Ramsey has little to no value because Brunell is the starter for next season and Jason Campbell is the starter after that. Getting anything of value, let alone a player of Abraham's value, is a huge bonus for the Skins in a Ramsey trade.
     
  6. Big Poppa Naich

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    I don't think Abe is as valueable as we all think. It sounds, as per Sirius NFL Radio, that he should command a late first round pick or combo 2nd and 3rd.
     
  7. jhsensation10

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    im saying a lot of gibberish??.. please can other ppl comment on this... am i?? how bout i giving perfect examples of what we need to do and you are not saying anything at all?? my previous posts explain what we can get and i compare my thought with yours and mine is obviously better... your comments are a joke and now im really beginning to think you are an idiot.. and dont call me sonny.. i go to hopkins med school.. what do u do?? you can shine my shoes buddy
     
  8. MiamiJet420

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    Although I wouldn't agree with the trade for Ramsey, solely because I'm an avid supporter of drafting Cutler, I wouldn't be so quick to knock him. Some quarterbacks look shitty because of the system they're in. I think thats part of the reason Ramsy hasn't had much success. Also, name me a star receiver he's had a chance to work with. Santana only got there this year.
     
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    Coles

    Ramsey isn't that bad he is a lot better than Brooks
     
  10. chow184

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    :rofl2: :lol:
     
  11. 28rogerblaze51

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    People have been saying mnay negatives on ramsey but those are just opinions not facts. Ramsey can be a good QB givin the right staff and organization. He is disgruntled since his second year in washington. And just wanted out, those times he has been beaten out were just his quiet version of T.O. He knows he is not of T.O.'s caliber so he took a quiet approach on wanting to leave, if we get ramsey he will be a good QB, and who knows he might just be great for us.
     

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