Penn State scandal thread (merged 3x)

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  1. RPOZ51

    RPOZ51 Well-Known Member

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    It makes you wonder --> If McQueary had seen Sandusky attack the kid with a weapon, instead of his penis, what would McQueary have done?

    The only way you could possibly turn your back on a scene like that in a lockerroom, without taking action would be if you thought you saw two willing participants. When one of them is a young kid, there is absolutely no way that a rational person could conclude that there are two willing participants.

    McQueary should have either: beaten Sandusky within an inch of his life, or immediately called the police, or both.
     
  2. BK_Jetsfan

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    Have you read the grand jury thing? He wasn't the only one. A grown ass man janitor saw something similar. He was reportedly distraught and didn't do shit at the time. AND didn't report it. Not to authorities. And as a result, there's an unidentified kid out there who may never be vindicated.

    The grand jury findings are SOOOO distrubing. Honestly, it seems like everyone knew what the fuck was going on for a LONG fucking time and intentionally turned a blind eye to it (even JoePa, fuck that). Such an appauling turn of events and so sad for these fucking kids, who are now traumatized adults and may go and fuck up other kids in the process.
     
  3. guinness77

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    Yeah, I pointed that out on the last page. I couldn't even get through the whole thing, it's a very disturbing read.
    I'm not giving the janitor a pass, but he was a old man...he did tell every other maintenance guy there and apparently a more senior guy said they SHOULDN'T report because they would all lose their jobs. Apparently, that man has dementia now and doesn't remember yesterday, let alone something that happened 13 years ago.
    McQuery was a 28 year old man, they always show him on TV, he's not a small guy. He could have physically stopped it.
     
  4. DisgruntledLionFan

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    PSU is clearly a dumb fucking entity. You give him time to resign/retire, but then he says it won't happen until the end of the season?

    You fire his ass if you have any decency or balls. Let him coach this weekend for the sake of the players and can his ass right after the game.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    He lost the right to call his own shots as far as when he wants to retire. he has to be removed immediately. if he coaches again it's it will be a travesty.
     
  6. JetsFan56

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    Updated Nov 9, 2011 10:07 AM ET
    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP)

    A person familiar with the decision says Penn State football coach Joe Paterno has decided to retire at the end of the season. The person says Paterno will announce his retirement later Wednesday. The person spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity because the decision has yet to be announced.

    MORE TO COME . . .


    http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Joe-Paterno-to-retire-as-Penn-State-head-coach-110911
     
  7. DisgruntledLionFan

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    Clearly, on any other campus. I was talking about the last few days. If Joe was as decent/moral as he's played the last few decades, then he would have done so willingly.

    But to leak that he's retiring after the season? Accomplishes nothing.
     
  8. GordonGecko

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    So does Paterno get booed, cheered, or hear crickets at the game? I don't know about you but if I have tickets for that game I'm eating the tickets and not showing up. There's no way to possibly enjoy watching that game and no way I would want to see that guy's face (or lack of face behind those glasses)
     
  9. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Good question. It will be interesting to see what happens. What I want to know is what kind of person doesn't - upon seeing a mob of people cheering for him - immediately tell everyone "don't cheer. Please say a prayer for those who have been hurt by this incident."

    Its truly sick and disturbing that he'd listen to these cheers and say "bad stuff happens in life"

    WTF?

    I had my car broken into last month. That's something bad. Getting raped and exploited by a predator isn't bad. It's horrific. And it happened apparently twenty times.

    Oh yeah Joepa. BEAT NEBRASKA!

    This is an unforgivable moral failure on Paterno's part on so many levels I don't know where to start in listing them.
     
  10. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    I agree 100%.
     
  11. GordonGecko

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    http://twitter.com/PeteThamelNYT/statuses/134289622674059264

    http://twitter.com/PeteThamelNYT/statuses/134289933228716033

    http://twitter.com/DufresneLATimes/statuses/134292859196149762
     
  12. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    This is spot on. There are moments in life where a man has to take decisive action and do the morally right thing even at risk to himself. This is the true test of manhood.

    Maybe you're walking home and a house in the neighborhood is on fire. You see the arsonist standing by the house with gas and matches.

    Do you just call 911 and stand there while some kid is screaming for help from a window or do you try to do something, anything to help him in the meantime? Hell tell the kid to jump and you'll catch him before he burns to death.

    The GA made the call to 911 but let the kid burn to death and then, let the arsonist walk around Penn State without ever apparently saying "I don't care what JoePa and the campus bigwigs think. Sandusky is guilty of a crime."

    And in the meantime more kids burned to death.

    The GA absolutely failed his test of manhood.
     
  13. DisgruntledLionFan

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    What a crock of shit.
     
  14. soxxx

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    Penn State is a disgrace, fire Paterno now. He has no right to coach another game. This isnt fair for the student players either, now they have to deal with this bullshit after every game.
     
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    How is he going to tell the Board of Trustees to NOT discuss his status?!?!!? He is fucking arrogant and cocky as hell. Does he really think hes that huge of a figure and that he makes the decisions? if its in the best interest of students, then LEAVE, NOW.

    Im hoping he ends up where he belongs, in jail.
     
  16. DisgruntledLionFan

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    He's just trying to dictate terms, just like he's always done at PSU.

    That's why it's laughable for people to say JoePa did what he was supposed to do in reporting it to his superiors.

    He didn't have any superiors, hence why he's still there in his mid-80s.
     
  17. Jetaho

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    QFT! What a load of defense lawyer bullshit.

    The idea that there was this invisible PSU chain of command that required notification of superiors and nothing more is ridiculous. If you see a clear and obvious felony being committed, your first responsibility is to stop it if you can. If you panic and run away, your second responsibility is to report it to law enforcement. Your third responsibility is to follow administrative procedures of the organization you work for to allow them to perform damage control in cooperation with the law enforcement investigation.
     
  18. GordonGecko

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    Paterno "speech":

    "Let's pray for the kids who had some bad things happen, and that's terrible, but anyway, we really need your support to beat Nebraska on Saturday."
     
  19. Jetaho

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    "with the benefit of hindsight . . . "

    Are you fucking kidding me? You know there was a highly credible case involving your boy Sandusky performing a naked embrace on a 10 year old in the coaches' showers in 1998 in which he narrowly escaped prosecution, then you find out from your boy McQueady that he witnessed Sandusky fucking another 10 year old in the SAME SHOWER, and you merely passed the information along? Then you saw nothing get done and you washed your hands of the matter altogether? If only Captain Hindsight were around to tell you that you should've reported it to the cops! Where are you when we need you Captain Hindsight? Seriously Joe. Shut the fuck up.
     
  20. Don

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    That's bullshit..he did what he should have done having not seen it himself. What the people he reported it to did or didn't do is where the issue is, not with him. What if the person who told him was full of shit? It was up to university to do more.
     

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