PENALTIES - bad bad bad

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Longsuffering88, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2015
    Messages:
    2,049
    Likes Received:
    2,574
    TB is the epitome of "peter's principle"... an incompetent. This team should be playing better then it is yet we have penalties with no accountability. Fire this bum....
     
    ColoradoContrails likes this.
  2. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    9,057
    Likes Received:
    692
    try bates, the oc, or even mike westhoff.

    heck, even call tommy tight butt or the tuna for a tag team approach to bring the comatose patient back to life....
     
    #42 mr nyjet, Aug 25, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2018
    Jets81 likes this.
  3. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    9,057
    Likes Received:
    692
    so, they will trade away teddy for peanuts, because heaven forbid we go into next year with more than one qb who can actually play.
    to say nothing of this year behind a swiss cheese o-line, with the giant hole at left tackle.
     
    Ralebird likes this.
  4. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    I understand being afraid to sit a starter, but really, you usually only need to do it once or twice and the message sinks in - short term pain; long term gain.
     
    TonyFtLaud likes this.
  5. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2018
    Messages:
    4,367
    Likes Received:
    4,358
    I can’t even.
     
  6. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    9,057
    Likes Received:
    692
    you know it is bad when the giants can flash backup running back, receiver, o lineman, and d lineman who out play your starters.

    victor cruz killed the jets in a regular season game, but it is not like that was a surprise after he flashed and killed them the same year in preseason.
     
  7. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    2,795
    Likes Received:
    2,961
    I have no fear that Teddy will be traded this year. To go into a season with 2 QB's, one a rookie and the other being measured for a rocking chair is suicide. Besides, there has to be an extremely needy QB team to make a deal, and at the moment, I don't see one.
     
  8. mr nyjet

    mr nyjet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2002
    Messages:
    9,057
    Likes Received:
    692
    today's nfl radio network: raiders looking for veteran backup at qb.
    there are other teams looking for backup this year but starter next year.
    saints, chargers, denver?, lions, fins, jax, tb?, pats?, cincy?

    start teddy, keep sam upright until after the bye week.
     
  9. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    I'm a big Darnold fan, and normally believe that a true FQB - which I think he has the potential to be - should start Day 1. BUT...with this OL, I think holding him back until we can improve that, either by adding some better players after the cuts, or simply improvement via practice and playing together, I think it's better in the long run to keep Sam safe. You're suggestion has merit IMO, as badly as I want the Sam Darnold Era to begin. I sure don't want it to begin and end in the same season.
     
  10. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    2,795
    Likes Received:
    2,961
    I'm not concerned. This is football, hitting and getting hit is part of the game. there's no escaping it. Was anyone concerned about the quality of the OL in Indy when Manning was there? or in GB when Favre was there. Even in NE, yes, when Brady started out he played behind an excellent OL, but recently? The great QB's of the game were able to compensate for less than perfect OL's by altering their drops, moving in the pocket, quick deliveries, rolling out, etc, etc. Darnold has exhibited those qualities so far, so let's let him do his thing.
     
    #50 westiedog1, Aug 25, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018
  11. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Messages:
    14,518
    Likes Received:
    21,736
    Yes, he's exhibited samples of these traits, but he's a green rookie and will need to come up to speed rapidly if he's going to avoid getting banged around behind what so far looks like a less than mediocre OL. I think holding him out a few games to give this OL more time to gel and to learn the zone blocking, and hopefully even see the addition of some better talent when final cuts are made, is prudent and won't stunt his growth.

    As I said, I'm beyond ready to launch the Sam Darnold Era, and won't be pissed off if they decide to start him Game 1, but I will be holding my breath every snap.
     
    westiedog1 likes this.
  12. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    8,791
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    At least he’s not Hue Jackson? ... because judging by hard knocks even I can see he’s in so far over his head. How the hell did he get that job.
     
  13. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    15,292
    Likes Received:
    9,502
    Bates? Why Bates? What has he shown as either a QB coach or an OC that you like? Where is his history of success; isn't that of some importance? Don't be fooled by that unattributed "best offensive mind in the building" nonsense; even if it's true, who is he being compared to?
     
  14. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    2,795
    Likes Received:
    2,961
    I've been doing that for 30+ years.....
     
    NCJetsfan and ColoradoContrails like this.
  15. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    38,126
    Likes Received:
    32,230
    Well, its only pre-season so, having drives killed by stupid penalties is no big thing. Same thing with PI's , roughing the passers and other offenses that keep the opponents' drive alive. Once the "real" season begins, I'm sure the defense will manage to find a way off the field on 3rd down before half the qtr is over. All those holdings and false starts will magically disappear and our offense will manage to get out of its own way. Why? Because no matter what happens in pre-season, the regular season cures all ills. Hell, I fully expect our ST's to become a top 5 unit once the real season begins mainly because the pre-season doesn't matter even if they did suck golf balls thru garden hoses.
     
  16. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2004
    Messages:
    15,456
    Likes Received:
    8,785
    Norman Bates, why not.
     
    #56 jetophile, Aug 26, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018
    Ralebird likes this.
  17. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2004
    Messages:
    15,456
    Likes Received:
    8,785
    Gawd, I used to hear the freaking word 'holding' in my sleep in the late '70s. It was unbelievable how many plays were negated because of it. But let's not discuss the past lest we invite history to repeat itself. Sometimes I feel like a lemming jumping off a cliff with this team, but lemmings gonna lemming and Jets gonna Jet.
     
    Cman69 likes this.
  18. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    38,126
    Likes Received:
    32,230
    as the old saying goes..." Those that cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.."
     
  19. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    27,097
    Likes Received:
    7,046
    The sarcasm force is strong with this one.
     
    westiedog1 likes this.
  20. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2004
    Messages:
    15,456
    Likes Received:
    8,785
    Like bad pizza in the middle of the night.

    EDIT & P.S.: Most people past the age of 40 from any of the five boroughs knows what repeating means.
     
    #60 jetophile, Aug 26, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018

Share This Page