Pats make another nice pickup.

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  1. Yisman

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    gdp!@!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Don't embarrass us Jets fans. Please remember we have Chad Noodle arm not good enough to get out of the second round of the playoff Pennington as our Qb. Brady gets them in position to get the win. Chad did it once in Pitt and the kick should have been shorter but Herm was scared to let him throw for ten extra yards because he s**ks! When you argue with a Pats fan please have a valid one.
     
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    I didn't think it was Brady that gave up 32 points to the Colts in the 2nd half.

    Anyway, the Stallworth and Welker signings were good moves that carry little risk. Stallworth's deal is very cap friendly and heavily tied to performance. Obviously he will stretch the field like no other Patriot WR in a long time.

    Welker is a special teams gem who can play the slot a helluva lot better than Troy Brown at this point.

    Washington could easily bust, but with a $300,000 SB, so what if he does. It's all upside without the cap hit. Maybe you put him in with veterans like Seymour, Brady, Bruschi, Harrison, and he decides he wants to be a part of it. Talent wise, he complements Stallworth nicely as a possession type receiver who Brady can look for in the red zone.
     
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    I agree. They got Stallworth for cheap money and have only commited to him for one year. They hold the ability to extend him if he performs well (at a good price), or walk away after 07 at no real loss. If he turns out to be what they where looking for and extend him, he will then be making 1 million less per year then they would have had to pay Deion Branch. The fact Stallworth has better numbers then Branch, and has missed less games due to injury then Branch make him worth a shot. Not to mention the low risk nature of the deal. The injury stuff is overblown. Stallworth has missed 4 of his last 44 games, and 12 total out of the 68 he has played in. Branch has been out more in the same amount of games. Im gonna go out on a limb and say playing in a better situation might do wonders for a sore hammy. Stallworth is also bigger and faster giving them a legit deep threat. That helps Maroney and the running game among other things.

    The washington deal is structured the same way. It only cost them 300 grand to bring him in for one year. If he perfoms they extend him, if not they tell him to hit the bricks. Cheap money, low risk.

    I would think Brady might bring out the best in these two.Both these guys turned down more money from the Titans and Phins to play in NE. Thomas did the same to the niners. Good picks ups.
     
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    You guys just aren't very schmat, are you? This kid, zoostation is pure Pats troll. He came to TGG during, yes, I said DURING the NE/Indy playoff game, AFTER NE took a commanding lead, and started trash talking about the Colts. Then he said he thought he was at a Colts site. I guess all the green at this site threw him off. This was a chance to get him all riled up, and you blew my cover. :mad: Thanks for ruining my fun.

    But, by the way, please do show me one big game that Brady had to get a TD late. Truth is, he hasn't been put in that position very often at all. But, when he has, as in the Colts game, he didn't get it done. This is a thread about the Pats, not the Jets, not Pennington and his known weaknesses.... and a chance to spank this troll is now gone. Stick in the mud.
     
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    It is a fair point. In the first SB, he had to drive them for a FG, which he did............a freaken 40 something yard FG that Vinitieri nails. Meanwhile, Chad drives us for a 40 something yard FG and Brien misses....twice!!! Therfore, Chad and Hermie are bums and Brady and Belichick are brilliant! Same thing in 90 with the GIants. Levy and Kelly are bums and PArcells is a genius because of the kickers. One made every big one, the other missed his one chance. Laces out, finkle.

    Sadly, for us anyway, NE won two other SBs & Brady makes throws Chad can't, and Belichick draws up defenses like no one else can. Well, he used to.....
     
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    Has Pennington ever led the leauge in passing with number 2 recievers? Has Pennington ever lead his team to the afc championship game with no name, garbage recievers taken off the scrap heap? Has Pennington had 3 sets of recievers over his career, and still won 3 superbowls? Has Pennington won 3 superbowls and two super bowl mvp's? How exactly did the patriots get in the position to win superbowls with kicks? Has Pennington lead his team to the playoffs or winning superbowls every year for the last 6 years? Saying Brady was the reason NE lost the afc game is stupid. Who exactly put 34 points on the board in that game? The defense pissed that game away to the colts. Pennington is not even close to Brady and never was. The only qb you can argue to be better then Brady in this era, is Manning. Who has always had way more offensive talent around him, and has 2 less rings. Brady had better playoff numbers then Manning for the millionth time even tho they lost. Comparing the two playoff records makes you chuckle. For how great Manning is Brady stomps his stats in the playoffs.

    Funny how everyone ignores the fact reche Caldwell and Gaffney had numbers the trumped the likes of Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison in the playoffs. Not to mention , Brady led his team to a 12 and 4 season with a bunch of scrub recievers no one ever heard off. They had big time injuries at some points also..... Oh brother...
     
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    The NFL Players Association is concerned that the Patriots and Dolphins violated the Collective Bargaining Agreement while putting together the recent trade of receiver Wes Welker and has asked the NFL Management Council for an explanation, according to a source.
    -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/scorecard/03/13/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html

    Hmm, all of this big wheeling and dealing caught some unwanted attention I see. :lol:
     
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    That's your response to my post in which I clearly state Brady does things Pennington can't? It seems to me you're a Patriots fans posting as Jetsman22. Every post you make is pro-Pats, pro-Brady, which is fine. I got no problem with Pats fans. Ask if you can change your name to Patsman22.
     
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    he was outed soon after he started posting. it's now an open secret.
     
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    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

    Carl Francis, the director of communications from the NFL Players Association, clarified the situation regarding Wes Welker today.

    Francis said the NFL Players Association is not seeking a review of the process in which Welker was traded from the Dolphins to the Patriots. He added that the association is not concerned that the collective bargaining agreement might have been violated as part of that process.

    Instead, Francis said the association had sent a letter of inquiry to the management council seeking details on the contract signed by Welker.

    "It had nothing to do with the way the deal went down," said Francis, adding that it wasn't an official grievance, and that Welker and his representatives did not ask the association to pursue any course of action.
     
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    But that would make him less of a troll.
     
  14. jaychamp

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    I thought something similar, but good luck finding any KW arrests. And all I found regarding him and his teammates, is that he didn't get along with them. So him not getting along with convicts who didn't care about the team or winning is a bad thing? KW has been injury plagued, that's why he couldn't move up in the depth chart. Doesn't say much for his durability, but it's a low risk contract so the Pats really have nothing to lose and everything to gain. We need a red zone threat. If he pans out, a 6'3" WR would give us that. If he makes a difference it won't be huge, but the little things count too, if you want to win a championship.

    You probably don't watch the Pats as close as me, so I have to give you the benefit of the doubt, but Branch was never a deep threat. He's a quick possession receiver, and a damn good one, but not a deep threat. He shouldn't even be compared with Branch. Completely different type of receivers. Welker is closer to a Branch make-up.

    I agree it's not a strong unit right now, too many question marks, but the "potential" is certainly there, more than any other year in the Brady era.

    Certainly there will be a learning curve, but Caldwell did OK and had a career year, and Gaff turned it on in the playoffs after having less than a year with the team. If the defense, which is still our strength, can hold down the fort for awhile, the receivers will be well acclimated come playoff time.


    The only big risk, IMO, is AD. Other than that, KW and Donte are signed to cheap 1 year deals with multi year options.

    They were 30 million under the cap. Were they just supposed to sit on it?

    Not saying you, but I don't understand why everyone called the Pats FO cheap, and then when they finally have the cap room to spend money and do it, it's called desperate. And the only person, as of right now, that they arguably overpaid for is Welker.

    I wish I could see the comments when the Pats spent money on Colvin, Harrison, and Dillon.

    So all and all I think they're good moves on paper, but games aren't played on paper. Guess we'll just wait and see what happens. Talk is cheap :)
     
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