Pats discipline predictions?

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  1. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Omg just shut up already. I understand what the others were talking about now, you are clearly trolling. What a waste of responses you are
     
  2. pclfan

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    This is why your team is hated. You blame the cop after committing the crime. And say he was lying. It just proves NEP would do anything to absolve themselves as we saw by statements from Brady's agent. As for a sting: if the NFL was tipped off by the Colts that you were breaking the rules why would they tell them about it. It's obvious they would want to catch them cheating red handed. The thing is, Kraft and Brady and BB are so far into this with their own lies that they can't get out of it. They said they unequivocally didn't do it. And the report says they did and thus lied. They don't have class enough to admit they wrong (they will never admit they lied that's for sure). But again even though I've been roasted on this board for this (from the low end of the totem pole-so no big deal) the penalty should fit the crime.. No season suspension for Brady, it's overkill. 2 to 4 to me is ok. I don't seek Brady blood.
     
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  3. pclfan

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    You're truly an idiot for saying that. So I guess that hiring rapists or murderers does not impugn on the integrity of game. And deflating footballs does. Based on what you say someone can do whatever they want off the field and still suit up on Sunday. Definitely not within the by-laws of the NFL and contracts which have clauses for extreme and unlawful kind of behavior even if not against the law.
     
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    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    That's it, I'm convinced you have learning and comprehension disability.
    Sorry... Must've be hard for you
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    You are confusing different things.

    The league has rules in place to suspend players that commit crimes. This has more to do with PR than anything. Just because a league rule exists does not mean it is specifically addressing the integrity of the game. All NFL rules and regulations are not intended to address the issue of integrity of the game.

    When a player breaks a law that does not mean they've compromised the integrity of the game. They may have compromised there own personal integrity but torturing and killing a bunch of dogs for example, does nothing specifically to compromise the integrity of any football game. A football game is not affected by such activity in any way. It makes the player a scumbag and a criminal but the game of football's integrity is still in tact. No rule of the game was dishonestly broken or circumvented. Hiring that player back into the league also did not compromise the integrity of any football games as the players character within the rules of the sport itself were never an issue. The player didn't do anything to cheat the game.

    The integrity of the game is challenged however; when a player takes calculated steps to circumvent rules designed to control how the game is played between the lines the player is specifically compromising the integrity of the game.
     
  6. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    It's amazing how you gave to continue to explain this....
     
  7. pclfan

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    Well I guess we're talking semantics again plus ethics. Clause 15 of the uniform NFL player contract is Conduct Detrimental to the NFL aka The Integrity of the Game Clause. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy And here is an ESPN article about it. Anyways, imo deflating balls doesn't hold a candle to Ray Rice, Peterson or any of those other scofflaws who have been in the news this past year. So I wouldn't suspend Brady a year for what he and his team did. But he blatently broke the rules and deserves punishment.
     
  8. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    It's not semantics. It was a fundamental misunderstanding on your part as usual.
     
  9. joe

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    The distinction between integrity of the game and personal conduct need not be treated as rocket science.
     
  10. greenbeanz

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    Never in my life have I seen someone claim semantics and interpretation in so many wrong ways. Amazing stuff.


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  11. pclfan

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    My misunderstanding. I don't think so. I just sent you info on league language in terms of integrity of game. Why don't you read it then. Or you can read the uniform player contract. Stop trying to pull a Brady and a Kraft or turning the tables. You're often an intelligent and funny poster. I usually look forward to your commentary but not when you act like a hardass.
     
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  12. greenbeanz

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    You really can't read. Like at all.

    I read what you posted. It's the personal conduct policy. The only mention of integrity is the integrity and public confidence in the league. That means in a public sense. Not the game on the field.

    And that's not semantics or your interpretation. That's how it's written. That's what it says. In black and white. Now go make out with your Brady ugg poster you stole out of the local mall.


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    We're talking about the term "integrity of the game" and that's how that term is used in league language. It's not just how you want it to be interpreted.
     
  14. greenbeanz

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    This is the last time I respond to you bc you are, at this point, useless to any rational discussion.

    In no part of what you posted is the term "integrity of the game" posted. It clearly states, and I quote "conduct detrimental to the integrity and public confidence of the national football league" that does NOT mean integrity of the game. Integrity of the game has to do with the actual play on the field. This has to do with rules broken OUTSIDE of that. Like ray rice and Peterson.

    That's not an interpretation once again. That is a fact. There's no other way to interpret it. So once again, just stop making a fool of yourself and the rest of those who believe in the patriot way like yourself. You're making them look bad and it's not fair to them. They deserve better representation than a phony jet fan with a severe reading comprehension issue.


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  15. rammagen

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    I say let him walk as long as they neuter all cheater fans. We must stop stupid from reproducing.c
     
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  16. pclfan

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    Instead of being an attack dog why don't you fairly follow the chain of conversation between me and NotSato....We had a sidebar to the main conversation about what is worse: deflating balls or personal misbehavior. He also stated that rules against personal misconduct was mostly a PR ploy by the NFL. Here btw is an appendix to the uniform player contract. Clause 15 is specifically addressed as 'Integrity of the Game" http://ipmall.info/hosted_resources/SportsEntLaw_Institute/Agent Contracts Between Players & Their Agents/APPENDIX_A__player_contract_.pdf
    I understand there's on the field vs off the field. But both get penalized. And the term 'integrity of the game"is used by the league in referring to off the field as well.
     
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  17. FlaJet

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    Wish U guys stop biting each other's head off. True Jet fans don't want a pint of blood from the cheating scumbag team. WE WANT EVERY FREAKING DROP.
     
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  18. greenbeanz

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    It's only one closet pats fan and Junc that keep defending Brady to the death. Other than that we are all in agreement. Hang the bastard!!


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    How about yesterday when he posted an actual legal definition of the term "bribery" then proceeded to completely misunderstand what he had posted.

    He posted a definition that he hadn't even read then tried to explain to us that the term actually means something else.

    True story.

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  20. greenbeanz

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    He did it this morning with the personal conduct policy. He's legitimately gotta have mash potatoes for brains or he's a dead ass pats fan. I refuse to believe or let him represent himself on here as a jets fan. No jets fan goes full retard to defend t*m br*dy


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