Count me as a Rex supporter in the sense I KNOW that without his defensive skills, there is no chance we make 2 AFCCG, and win any games this year. I am the total opposite of what most think. Early on, I didn't like him too much- though everyone loved him. Now that everyone hates him, I like him. I see his genius. Lets keep Rex. Or we can always try Kotite or Herm..... Think about it
as soon as wilson came out the dbs got torched even more than k-dub did winning the game >>>> scolding a cb discipline can be handled after the game
one of the worst threads....ever. w/o the outstanding coaching, we lose this game, and probably are 0-3 as ESPN predicted. We just had our way with Buffalo despite the refs trying to spot them.
everyone whined that Rex is a lame duck because every GM wants to hire their own coach. what the hell would that make Marty Morhinweg? if Idzik believes that philosophy that he has to have his guy as a head coach, he would then have to apply that downward that whatever head coach he hires would have to hire his own guy as OC. I doubt Idzik's plan is to have every player on the team waste their time this season to learn a system just for one year just to clean house then next year. outside of a complete disaster of a season, Rex is staying regardless of the hypothetical reasons why Idzik would want to fire him outside of any on-field reasons.
I agree with this. The philosophy that Rex was doomed from the minute Idzik was hired is common sense without context. Put into context, Rex is the best defensive mind the Jets have ever had, even better than Parcells was. Further, if Idzik and the Jets didn't believe in Geno, they wouldn't have drafted him. Assuming they do believe in him, it'd be an incredible disservice to his development to eject Marty Mornhinweg after one season. Its very unlikely that the Jets will be able to bring in a coach immediately who will help him more. The current coaching staff is about as good as it gets (too bad Westhoff retired). The Jets would be foolish to blow up both the defense and Geno's development because of some cookie cutter theory that has no basis in reality. I just hope the Jets can be more disciplined moving forward. Twenty penalty games more often than not results in losses. The Jets were very fortunate today to get away with that.
I wasn't thrilled with the 2 challenges and burnt timeouts he used. He could have used it on the EJ clear fumble.
The challenges were poor but Rex can't make a decision based on the fact that something might happen later. Rex needs to not make the decisions based on the fact that the plays hes challenging have a low chance of being overturned.
so let me get this straight, this thread is about rex ryan having a bad coaching day. somehow it turned into a if you think rex sucked today you must want him gone and to have someone who really sucks come in.... is that what has happened to this thread?
better way to state it....this thread was created out of ignorance, and debating ignorance can often spiral around. if you think this was a bad day for Rex, maybe u should open your eyes some more..
OP mentioned firing him so here we are. We are still waiting for an explanation as to why it was such a bad day for Ryan. As challenges are reviewed upstairs prior to throwing the flag, and penalties are caused by players on the field, and the team actually winning the game, most are left wondering how exactly it was such a terrible coaching job.
While I agree.. there was absolutely NO need to challenge the spot of the ball because he was clearly short. Also, I wouldn't have challenged the catch, either.
This is exactly the thought process that was going on, but I think you're understating how stupid the logic is. The first and foremost problem stems from Rex thinking, "hey we'll have to call a timeout anyway so what the hell right?" Wrong. Rex loves to burn timeouts for no reason and there is no reason that they needed to there. You're going for it anyway so just call in the run and wait out the play clock to see if the refs will give any help. Next, even if you win the second challenge you can't get a third one. It was a horrendous call and it could've cost the game as it worked out. The offensive playcalling/decision making is vastly improved with Morningwheg but at this point the biggest threat to Rex's tenure from a coaching standpoint is obviously his incompetence at clock management/challenges. They're a couple of small aspects to the game but they cost wins if you keep making them over and over. In a day full of bright spots that challenge was an old familiar failure that I hated to see.
That's what I mean. The challenges were crap based on the fact that neither was going to be overturned, nor even really had much of a chance to be overturned. Manuel's fumble turned blown call was unfortunate, but Rex couldn't have seen that coming. His choice in challenges was the mistake, and the Manuel fumble was a result of those mistakes.
I don't understand how making sure the team is using sound strategy and schemes are not a part of a head coach's job. I would venture to say that's the biggest part of his job. He even brought in a historically successful offensive coordinator to fix last year's atrocity. Complain about the accepted holding penalty and the odd challenges, I did too. But that's no reason to fire a guy. Saying that Rex is a good defensive coordinator but not a good head coach is a moot point; demoting Rex to defensive coordinator is not and never will be a viable option. I want to know who you Rex haters want to replace him with.
The team is playing hard. The team has been in every game. The team is 2-1. With a rookie QB. And a dearth of offensive talent. And a salary cap problem. How people can be bitching about Rex is inconceivable. The guy is a fucking magician. I don't think I've ever been this impressed with a Jets HC. This thread is full on retard.
A lot of guys have looked incredibly unprofessional in the past two games, but I'm not as pessimistic as everybody else in the tri-state. It feels like people just need something to bitch about. Next week when we beat the Titans somebody's going to start a thread about how they don't like what Ellis Lankster was seen wearing on the way to the field. 1.) We won. Convincingly. We held CJ to 10 yards of TOTAL offense. That's unheard of. We sacked EJ 8 times, and put him on the ground 16 times. This is a mobile QB behind a not completely horrible O-line. The D had a great game. The receivers had a great game. Bilal Powell had a great game. Other than the penalties and the two turnovers you have to expect from a rookie QB that had one preseason game, what was so atrocious about the way we played today. 2.) The penalties are horrible, and there's been some real sketchy moments... Last week it was Ferguson and Colon, this week it's Wilson. Davis got heated at one point. All that said, I'll take this over the complete sense of apathy that was last year. The Jets are playing with a chip on their shoulder, sometimes it manifests poorly, but you have to remember, almost every player on this team is exceptionally young. Think about it. 7 of 11 starters on defense have 4 years or less experience. Poise is something that comes with time. The team looks immature in some instances, because they are immature. If I needed a metaphor, I'd say the Jets D is like an adolescent kid. Physically he's in the best shape of his life, fully grown and capable, but still impulsive and obnoxious. 3.) You just cant pull starters for doing something stupid in 2 score game. You wanna throw Ellis Lankster or Trufant out there to cover Stevie Johnson? I wouldn't. And yet why blame Rex for the penalties. Rex, more than any other coach in the NFL consistently gets blamed for shit that isn't solely his fault. Threads like this are embarrassing... Fan reaction like this is why free agents are tentative to play in east coast metropolitan areas, particularly NY. Let's review Rex's resume since jumping on board. 2 AFC championship games, including playoff wins over the Brady and Manning with a bad rookie QB. Only one losing season, and really with your #1 corner & #1 receiver out for the year. 2/3s of your defensive line retiring, and Tomlinson and Scott essentially hanging on by a thread.. Not to mention losing two receivers to free agency.... 6-10 is not that bad. I would actually argue that given the personnel and circumstances he did exceeded expectations. 36-31 in the regular season (keep in mind this wasn't a playoff team prior to his arrival) Built what me and most ESPN talking heads consider the best young defensive fronts with nothing but draft picks. Going into the season essentially written off (I believe we were on the very bottom of every power rankings published) and he's one sloppy mistake by a rookie QB in the rain away from being 3-0. Rex deserves a ton of credit. Fact of the matter is, every except for 2011 the Jets have had outplayed what you intuitively expect their record to be just by looking at the player personnel. So, give Rex a fucking break. I rest my case.
