First of all, it is nice to see you again, Type-O. Secondly, I would like to reiterate my earlier question: How much could any reasonable fan expect Zach Wilson to do with no offensive line compared to what Sam Darnold did with no offensive line?
LOL! Are you serious? You really think right now that Douglas made the "correct call" foregoing the draft bonanza he could have received for the #2 pick, instead taking Zach Wilson. Darnold is 3-0 and has had 3 300 yards passing games. He didn't even miss a beat last week when his star RB went down early and left the game. Wilson looks and plays like a boy among men out there. I think one of his first passes yesterday was an out pattern to a wide open Moore and he missed him by 5 yards. He isn't even as good as Browning Nagle (1992). I knew that decision last April to potentially keep Sam and trade out of #2 (and acquire all those picks) v. taking Wilson who had Chris Simms kissing his butt was a watershed moment for this franchise. Douglas's foolish decision will now affect this franchise for years. Posters who still insist that "moving on was the correct call" are actually encouraging Douglas to do it again in 2022. We will have a high pick in 2022, probably #1 overall. So let's not trade down in 2022, right? We don't have any holes in our roster, right? Let's again take a player like Wilson who regardless of what position he plays had just one decent year in college, is too small to play in the NFL, and had his college stats inflated by a creampuff schedule. Then you can tell us again that the 2022 decision was also the "correct call." I posted all this stuff before the draft last year, and people like you still think Douglas did the right thing in ruining the jets future. (????)
I would like to reiterate my earlier question that I have asked on this thread: How much could any reasonable fan expect Zach Wilson to do with no offensive line compared to what Sam Darnold did with no offensive line?
You had one more year before you had to make that decision with Darnold. If he had faltered this season with reasonable talent around him (bolstered by the second pick you did not use on Wilson), then by all means, cut him.
What reasonable talent? Then we are still chasing a QB. Don't worry we can trade the number 2 pick again this year for this so called bounty. Because draft picks win games not players.
I think the decision to move on was the correct call. You're talking about how Darnold is doing in Charlotte but you can't compare. Put him behind this line, with no TE, below avg RBs, and WRs leading the league in drops and everyone would be saying Darnold doesn't belong in the league. Your second point is confusing. You think the draft was a watershed moment and JD blew it and couldn't pick the right guy but you're also upset that the same guy, who doesn't know how to pick players in your mind, didn't trade #2 for more picks?? If he can't find a stud player at #2 what's he gonna do with more picks??????
Do you have any idea what this team could have gotten for that 2nd pick? You don't think it would have impacted this year's talent roster? You would have at MINIMUM had one extra first round pick to use for Darnold this year, on top of God knows what else for this year and next year.
I didn't want Wilson but I don't put this on him. I've been saying since the off-season the Jets are putting him in a position where he's either a special player or a bust no in-between because he has no help. I don't think he's a bust but I do think he needs to sit. He can't possibly learn with this line, scheme, and game plan. Not his fault. Wasn't Darnolds fault either.
Yes but like I mentioned in another post the team is devoid of talent from JDs drafts already. Why should we assume that if you gave him more picks we'd suddenly have star players?? He had 2 1st this year how many 1st does he need to get it right?
There is no reason to expect them to have drafted a star. I simply would have expected this team to have more talent than the gutter-void that existed before.
Say what? You are now claiming that because Douglas screwed up and did not retain Sam and trade the #2 for more picks, that means he would have screwed up on the other picks he potentially could have acquired. (????) Uh, I thought it was pretty basic that the MORE high draft picks you HAVE, the better your chance of hitting on them (acquiring a good player). Sorry you are confused on that. In addition, you are missing the point that Darnold had to be traded to make room for wonder boy Wilson. We not only missed out on those high picks, we moved an NFL QB (Sam) who, unlike Wilson, has an NFL QB build and pedigree and had already been in the league three years. In other words, Sam had not been playing Southern Indiana and Troy State. Sam is tearing it up now and Wilson looks like a middle school QB scrimmaging against the varsity. But, as you said, trading Darnold was the "correct move," as you put it. If you think that was the correct move by Douglas, go ahead and apply, Douglas will hire you and I would like to hear what you think was an "incorrect move" by Douglas. Go ahead, keep defending moving Darnold. Feel free to respond if you want. You can have the last word.
LOL! The three games I watched this year have not convinced me that the jets are building squat with Wilson. Oh, and we don't have any of the picks that we could have gotten from #2 overall that we could have acquired. Glad you are happy we didn't pay Darnold, and can have the NFL's worst team and QB play now with Wilson.
Trading that pick would have had zero significance to this years team. Three games and you are sure that Wilson is a bust. We can trade the number 1 pick this year for an even bigger "Haul" .
That's not what I said at all. You said "Wilson plays like a boy among men". So you think JD messed up the draft but also wish he had more picks. You're also talking about the college opponents Darnold faced? Ignoring the 3 years he faced NFL teams and looked mostly terrible. No reason to believe Sam would suddenly improve had he stayed here with us.
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