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  1. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Round 1
    1. MSUJet 85- QB Joe Montana
    2. JetGreen- QB Johnny Unitas
    3. Ganooch- FB Jim Brown
    4. Jonathan_Vilma- OLB Lawrence Taylor
    5. Cakes- WR Jerry Rice
    6. 1028- RB Barry Sanders
    7. Kevin 68- RB OJ Simpson
    8. Murrell2878- HB Gale Sayers
    9. Wolfe_Tone- DE Reggie White
    10. DonnieIsTheKing- QB John Elway

    Round 2
    11. DonnieIsTheKing- RB Walter Payton
    12. Wolfe_Tone- ILB Mike Singletary
    13. Murrell2878-DE Deacon Jones
    14. Kevin 68- ILB Brian Urlacher
    15. 1028- QB Dan Marino
    16. Cakes- MLB Dick Butkus
    17. Jonathan_Vilma - ILB Jack Lambert
    18. Ganooch- RB Earl Campbell
    19. JetGreen
    20. MSUJet 85
     
  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Ganooch's pick was in the correct thread...Jetgreen is up...he'll have tomorrow until to make his pick
     
  3. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    God damn. I wanted Campbell in the 3rd.
     
  4. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone New Member

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    It is intersting to see what road the GMs go down to make their ultimate franchise, whether D or O or balanced, and then what positions are coveted
     
  5. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Round 1
    1. MSUJet 85- QB Joe Montana
    2. JetGreen- QB Johnny Unitas
    3. Ganooch- FB Jim Brown
    4. Jonathan_Vilma- OLB Lawrence Taylor
    5. Cakes- WR Jerry Rice
    6. 1028- RB Barry Sanders
    7. Kevin 68- RB OJ Simpson
    8. Murrell2878- HB Gale Sayers
    9. Wolfe_Tone- DE Reggie White
    10. DonnieIsTheKing- QB John Elway

    Round 2
    11. DonnieIsTheKing- RB Walter Payton
    12. Wolfe_Tone- ILB Mike Singletary
    13. Murrell2878-DE Deacon Jones
    14. Kevin 68- ILB Brian Urlacher
    15. 1028- QB Dan Marino
    16. Cakes- MLB Dick Butkus
    17. Jonathan_Vilma - ILB Jack Lambert
    18. Ganooch- RB Earl Campbell
    19. JetGreen - S Ronnie Lott
    20. MSUJet 85

    MSUJet is up
     
  6. 1028

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    So how many rds is this? Are we filling the roster?
     
  7. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    24 rounds was the plan. 11 offensive starters, 11 defensive starters, a placekicker and a punter.

    Ganooch is all set at running back already.

    If the 24 rounds go well, I'd be all for extending this thing and drafting a full roster.
     
  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    What are the rules for weekdays? Are we still making picks from 8-5?
     
  9. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I believe it is 10am-10pm. But if someone is next on the clock he could pick at some odd time like 3:15am or something.

    We could get a lot of picks done if we all agree to be here at the same time one day this week.
     
  10. Wolfe Tone

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    Mackey came out of nowhere, interesting pick by Ganooch
     
  11. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    more on Jim Brown:

    He was not a good blocker chiefly because he carried the ball so much he rarely was required to block.

    Brown was a fullback in the true definition of the term because he often lined up behind the quarterback and was the furthest offensive player from the line of scrimmage. The Cleveland halfback would often line up behind a tackle. They were appropriately called halfbacks because they were usually halfway between the line and the fullback.

    Brown was 6'2", 232 pounds.

    Charlie Scales was the starting Cleveland halfback in 1962. He was 5'11, 210. "Touchdown" Tommy Wilson also saw action. Wilson was 6'0", 203. The third string halfback was Ernie Green. He was 6'2", 205. That?s right- the backs blocking for Brown were smaller than him.

    Green was drafted by the Packers in 1962. He wasn't going to make the loaded-at-RB Green Bay roster, so Vince Lombardi called his friend Paul Brown and traded Green to Cleveland for a 7th round draft choice.

    1962 stats-
    Brown- 230 carries, 996 yards, 4.3 avg, 13 TDs
    47 receptions, 517 yards, 11.0 avg, 5 TDs

    Scales- 56 carries, 239 yards, 4.3 avg, 3 TDs
    8 receptions, 67 yards, 8.4 avg, 0 TDs

    Wilson- 46 carries, 141 yards, 3.1 avg, 1 TD
    8 receptions, 110 yards, 13.8 avg, 0 TDs

    Green- 31 carries, 139 yards, 4.5 avg, 0 TDs
    17 receptions, 194 yards, 11.4 avg, 1 TD

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    In 1963, Green took over as the regular halfback as he became a good blocker. He had 87 carries for a 6.0 average. Brown had 291 carries.
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    In 1964, the Browns won the NFL title. Green had 109 carries and Brown had 280. Green led the team in touchdowns with ten. In the title game, Cleveland led Baltimore 3-0 in the third quarter when Jim Brown broke off the big play of the game by running for 46 yards to set up the first touchdown. On that play Green blocked down on the defensive end and tackle Dick Schafrath pulled to kick out the corner. The Browns won the game 27-0.

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    Brown retired before the 1966 season. Green moved to fullback and the 6'0", 200-lb. Leroy Kelly took over as the halfback and featured runner.

    1966 stats-
    Kelly- 209 carries, 1141 yards, 5.5 avg, 15 TDs
    32 receptions, 366 yards, 11.4 avg, 1 TD

    Green- 144 carries, 750 yards, 5.2 avg, 3 TDs
    45 receptions, 445 yards, 9.9 avg, 6 TDs


    They both made the Pro Bowl that season and again the following year.

    Green had 668 career carries for 3204 yards (4.8 avg) with 15 touchdowns. He caught 195 passes for 2036 yards (10.4 avg) with 20 touchdowns. He also returned 32 kickoffs and 11 punts. He only had 11 career fumbles. He had the talent to be a top notch feature back.

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    The Browns ran from a split-back formation. It was head coach Blanton Collier?s variation of the double wing. The terms halfback and fullback were true and appropriate.

    Fullback at one time was an appropriate term. Now it is basically a misnomer. Lorenzo Neal shouldn?t be referred to as a fullback. He should be called a blocking back. LaDainian Tomlinson should be referred to as a tailback. Together Neal and Tomlinson should be known as San Diego?s running backs.

    Halfbacks and fullbacks essentially changed positions in the 1950s with the advent of the I-formation. The fullback lined up directly behind the quarterback. The halfback lined up directly behind the fullback. Therefore, the halfback was furthest from the line of scrimmage and the fullback was only halfway back! It is the most annoying name switch in football history. (West Coast Offense is another annoying name.)

    In fact, I will try to refrain from labeling running backs as halfbacks or fullbacks. Those terms should be abolished. I am done listening to what The Man tells me to call them.
     
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  12. 1028

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    Didnt our next pick already pass? Who's up? Its definitely been 6 hours since 9...
     
  13. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I think we are waiting for Jonathan_Vilma.
     
  14. Wolfe Tone

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    I have always said RB until about 2 years ago then I got pressured by the man, but i am also guilty of saying FB for my entire football watching career
     
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    Round 1
    1. MSUJet 85- QB Joe Montana
    2. JetGreen- QB Johnny Unitas
    3. Ganooch- FB Jim Brown
    4. Jonathan_Vilma- OLB Lawrence Taylor
    5. Cakes- WR Jerry Rice
    6. 1028- RB Barry Sanders
    7. Kevin 68- RB OJ Simpson
    8. Murrell2878- HB Gale Sayers
    9. Wolfe_Tone- DE Reggie White
    10. DonnieIsTheKing- QB John Elway

    Round 2
    11. DonnieIsTheKing- RB Walter Payton
    12. Wolfe_Tone- ILB Mike Singletary
    13. Murrell2878-DE Deacon Jones
    14. Kevin 68- ILB Brian Urlacher
    15. 1028- QB Dan Marino
    16. Cakes- MLB Dick Butkus
    17. Jonathan_Vilma - ILB Jack Lambert
    18. Ganooch- RB Earl Campbell
    19. JetGreen - S Ronnie Lott
    20. MSUJet 85 - DT Joe Greene

    Round 3
    21. MSUJet 85 - RB Marcus Allen
    22. JetGreen - RB Emmitt Smith
    23. Ganooch - TE John Mackey
    24. Jonathan_Vilma
    25. Cakes
    26. 1028
    27. Kevin 68
    28. Murrell2878
    29. Wolfe_Tone
    30. DonnieIsTheKing
     
  16. DonnieIsTheKing

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    He's a school/sports guy such as myself... idk when he's getting back though.
     
  17. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    Whenever he picks, that's cool. I'll be online at various different times the rest of the night.
     
  18. Wolfe Tone

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    Yeh no rush we have been going at a good pace, so its alright if we wait it out
     
  19. DonnieIsTheKing

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    Agreed. I won't be on most of the day tomorrow though so I'm going to have to give my picks to someone if my pick doesn't come up tonight.
     
  20. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    We could skip him and go to the next person if everyone is cool with that. Then J_V would be back on the clock. Let me know if that's okay. I'd like to get J_V's opinion on that too. I should have brought that up instead of having us choose a player for him.
     

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