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It's very possible, but could it be AG's "brand of football"? Remember when a reporter said something to AG about this being a passing league, and he said that the Champs were #1 in rushing? Either way though, what is the QB supposed to do? When he was asked to throw he seemed to have done fine, what else could he do?

Again, I don't know if he can be like a Sam/Baker late bloomer, most likely not. But would be nice to see if he took a step forward or not by mixing it up a bit more. It's more fun to watch more passing and the season is effectively over anyway. We have Tyrod as a back-up too who is a decent sub if Fields has a few bad games.

 

yes it sounds the same

I think that’s because Fields is basically the same as Wilson, only Fields is a MUCH better runner, faster, more elusive.

But as a QB?

Same guy with the same faults

 

They dont trust Fields to pass, and I dont blame them, but Fields could help himself out there. Passing attempts are becoming run plays because he holds onto the ball and leaves the pocket.

Taylor, who also has a tendency to hold onto it, but he still is at least a professional QB. He got 36 attempts in Tampa which is way more Fields has gotten. They didn't call way more pass plays. Taylor just, get this, stood in there, took a hit, and threw the ball at people

 

Fields is currently last in the league in average time to pass. The distance between him and the 2nd worst guy (Caleb Williams) is bigger than the distance between Williams and the 8th best guy.

 

If they don't trust Fields to pass, why the fuck they got him for 20 mil a year? There were way cheaper options. Give him a real shot, and if he fails, oh well, we will have a really high pick next year. The season is already over anyway. And btw, if the season continues the way it is going now and we end up winning just a couple of games, are we going to trust this regime to pick another QB with a top pick?

 

source on this?

 

Saw it in a tweet earlier but can't find it now.

I cross-referenced and it looks like it might not actually be correct. Fields is indeed the worst in the league in time to pass but the difference between him and the 2nd worst guy doesn't seem to be as bad as the tweet indicated.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw

https://sumersports.com/players/quarterback/

 

Does that mean Glenn is telling the OC to move away from the ground and pound in favor of more passing against Dallas?

 

So, does that mean the Jets can't get a receiver open or they're free all over the field and they're invisible to Fields?

 

Ah you’re saying he’s got the most time. You saying “worst” led me to believe you were saying he had no time which I knew was absolutely wrong. He’s got far too much time. The more he thinks the worse he is.

 

Probably the latter. I've seen some data on open rates/separation and our receivers are generally doing fine there.

These stats are a little subjective but holding the ball too long has been Fields' main issue his entire career so I'm inclined to believe that's still the primary issue rather than our receivers not being open.

Yeah it's a confusingly named stat. Put simply, Fields is taking way too long to get rid of the ball.

 

I can't bring myself to pay monthly for all-22 film but from what I've seen across Twitter, there's been open receivers. Two were pointed out on the broadcast... he missed someone sitting in a soft spot (I think Reynolds) and tried to force one deeper to either Thomas or Wilson. Not only can Fields not read the field but he locks on to what seems to be two guys.

 

Why hasnt Fields improved in reading the field at all?

Not too many guys get 2nd chances in this league, Fields is actually getting a 3rd chance here. And he comes in without any change or improvement to his game. be a professional

 

I mean yea it's annoying but if you can make a quick $20 mil while not even trying to improve, wouldn't you? Blame the team for thinking they could fix something that's beyond repair.

 

I'm not even sure it's possible to meaningfully get better at reading the field. A good OC can make it easier for sure, but that's different than the QB getting better at it.

Reading the field means being able to process information and make good, quick decisions while under duress. Boiled down to its basics, you either have a brain that works that quickly or you don't. It's innate.

This reminds me of some recent research I've seen showing that IQ and reaction times are highly correlated, indicating that part of intelligence is how quickly your brain fires. Not everyone can be a fighter pilot and not everyone can be an NFL QB.

 

I disagree, you can definitely improve at processing the field. And despite my comment on Fields, I'm sure he has improved some. Some of it comes just from experience, hey i've seen this look before, I know not to throw it there. But more meaningful it can be done with hard work. He should've been studying film all offseason. Working with high speed cameras, hiring consultants, whatever if he wants to stay in this league

 

Do you have some all 22 tweets from last game? I found the one where he fumbled on 4th down, trying to see if there was someone open where a TO could have been avoided. Looks like it could not have been though, no one open and it's either a sack and change of possession anyway or a fumble.

https://x.com/Joerb31/status/1973442033936126222

 

I have said this in the past regarding Wilson that I can't believe there isn't a video game type therapy exercise designed to speed up the process of spotting receivers and their defenders. Or, if that does indeed exist, why we haven't heard of the Jets utilizing it.

 

I actually saw some plans on Dolphins defense analysis from their blogger twitter guys. Don’t have the link offhand but can try again tomorrow.