It used to bother me, it doesn't anymore. It goes back to Namath and how he made them look like fools. They had no idea how to handle Namath or the Jets and the final indignation for them was when we won the superbowl...they will never let it go.
It certainly isn't a positive, or do you think it is? I think it's naive to think that the NY media has absolutely no effect on the Jets performance. I would guess that the coach of the NY Jets and players spend far more time dealing with the local media than just about any other team. And the NY media certainly isn't writing fluff pieces or asking them how their doing. That time commitment alone is a negative impact. I also think it's naive to think there is anything that can be done to change it, besides winning and staying out of trouble.
I think the media constantly bashing the jets and calling them losers will certainly take its toll on them. They're human. If you think it doesn't you live in fantasy land. However there comes a point where you have to win and the media can't be blamed for that. The media doesn't help the situation but it's not the medias job to care. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I really don't think it's all that significant--actually quite minuscule in fact. Call me naive if you will--these are grown professional athletes in the most violent sport we have. This isn't Ed Witson pussying out on the grand stage of NYC. These guys don't give a shit IMHO. And I really care not to change it because I don't think it has any effect. Hell, some could argue that it has the opposite effect--"it's us against the world" bullshit. I'm not that plussed over it. _
The Team provides the media with this drama. Players today are talented but also, IMO, off the wall. Bowles needs to stop the lunatics before they take over the asylym. This is not his fault but certainly his problem to solve. Once the Jets are winning games you all know stuff like Genos shenanigans will be forgotten and never missed.
Of course I see the difference.Does the media? If Geno & Cam were to switch days/roles do you think the media backlash we are witnessing would be ANY different? Cam would be ho-hum while Geno would've been asking for it & if he played better in practice none of this would have transpired.But you don't think a fight in the locker room is a normal occurrence either?I mean the very term "Locker room fight" isn't all that uncommon. How much of the Icognito Miami scandal took place on the field? I could care less about the context of the argument if it isn't football related or involve death threats,family,illness,etc. The context really isn't important. Of course the media loves it cause it's juicy & compelling...but "personal reasons" are "personal reasons". Use logic. Again 2 early 20's alpha males going at it in a locker room....serious issues aside..which this clearly was not...ANY context is gonna come across as juvenile & self centered. In some ways this DOES fall on the jets. Over the years/seasons they have had infinite opportunities to save their name & shut the pundits up by Shushing & just winning. They haven't done it. This team has shown no resiliency or backbone in the face of all this conjured up adversity over literally DECADES. There in lies the rub of the "torment" jet fans allude to from over the years.Can our team JUST ONCE show some pride & some fight?
I'm tired of hearing about the media as an excuse...the Giants deal with the EXACT SAME media and they seem to be doing okay. Because they don't invite being mocked and made fun of the way we do, JPP and Plaxico nonsense aside.
Sorry. On the surface this appears to be a compelling argument.But there is no comparing the 2 beats. The Giants beat is professional & football based. They actually ask meaningful football related questions & try to stay impartial w/ maybe a SLIGHT sway of Pro-giants. The jets literally have one beat writer who will ask ANYTHING football intellectual & It's Cimini who most distaste. W/ the exception of Kim Jones & Chris Lopresti...everything else is tabloid level gossip from the jets beat. Absolutely nothing compelling or football based about how they cover the team.
It just pisses me off that non-jets fans around the league really buy into this stuff, and since we've been pretty shitty the last few years they don't take the time to actually watch a Jets game and find out the truth. So whenever BSPN or NFL Netjerks go on Jets rants that's all people see. When they see Manish and Cimini putting up almost anti-jets headlines as our beatwriters it kills us. We have nobody to shed light on us and speak on the good things. Geno's whole no interceptions in camp thing hasn't been blown up like Mariota's... only thing fans around the league know about Geno this off-season is that he got his jaw broke and now it's being reported the team mates don't buy into him and bash his leadership and work ethic and were just waiting for him to lose his starting job (its on bleacher report right now). lmao.. bullllllll shitttt... when it rains it pours on these NY Jets
How many weeks did the media spend talking about JPP? How many years has the media wanted Coughlin - a mostly successful coach - fired? How much bad press did the Giants get when guys like Shockey, Strahan and Tiki were running their mouths constantly? I'm sorry, it's just Jet fans looking for favoritism angle that think the Giants get it any better from the media than us, it's just that they do better at staying out of the news lately. Did the Giants bring in Tebow for no other reason but to make headlines? Did Coughlin pull a Rex Ryan and have some phony blowhard schtick that he was repeating from his Jacksonville days the way Rex is repeating his Jets schtick in Buffalo? Did the Giants trade arguably their best player - TWICE (Revis/Keyshawn) to Tampa Bay because of contract issues?
But it sells papers and fills air time with commercial worthy gaps and so it will continue. Sports news is not journalism for the most part, it's entertainment. If you're in the entertainment business do you want to try to sell a dry product or Al Bundy?
Yea but it wasn't a major topic .....The Geno Jawbreaker was covered around the clock by every major network for 3 days straight
Yeah, that's why the NYJ beat writers are shit, fuel the fire, make things up, use unanimous sources, always doom and gloom, etc... The Giants don't have that, their beat writers seem to be way more professional.
Of course it was a major topic on talk radio and TV...the only real difference is it happened in the offseason. You didn't have beat writers circling around the whole team at camp when the JPP thing happened. Plus there's only so much you can write when JPP goes into hiding and the team knows nothing. Not to mention there's also a big difference between a dopey self-inflicted wound and locker room issues with teammate on teammate crime. The latter's far more juicy.
Yes the Giants are in the NY news too.And yes they do get some mud chucked in their direction. But listen to a Giant beat reporter on the radio or listen to a live Giants press conference. They all know the game very well & ask FOOTBALL related questions...often times very enticing. Yes they throw in the custom gossipy questions..but football is the center focus. The Jets beat is just looking for a headline & nothing more. To be honest I feel like the Jets as an org feel the same way & have tried to fix this. They've hosted several "chalk talk" & film sessions for the beat that appeared really cheesy on the surface..but when you think about it, what were the Jets REALLY saying by sponsoring that?
