Here is something to think about..I think it is possible that if they decide Smith starts the season then they may very well cut Sanchez at the same time. Everybody knows he won't be back next year anyway and they may not want any chance of the circus returning with Sanchez on the bench. Whether he is here or not it will cost them the same.
If Smith plays well in the 1st half against the Giants it will be interesting to see who takes the 3rd quarter.
I've been saying this for awhile. rip the band aid off. marks not the future,its a very real possibility that they decide letting him go is the best way to start moving forward. just a matter of how comfortable they are with simms/mcelroy
First off, what a way to put a crappy spin on a good scenario. As I said many times before, Mehta is the consummate ring master left without a circus to work in. He can take a good move and make it look like Idzik was murdering a child. He needs a circus to feed his pee brain and there isn't one in the NYJ organization. Not anymore. To quote Chad Penny, this was more of a QB evaluation than a competition. IMO, as a four year starter Sanchez had every chance and the advantage to separate himself from the rookie by solid play. He has not done that. Geno gets a miserly one half of football to prove he can manage the game equal to or better than Sanchez. I feel that might be a bit much for the kid, pressure wise, but if he shines and gains the coaches confidence Sanchez moves to the bench. CAUTION: Once that decision is made there will be no turning back. Lets hope and pray the kid has what it take. If not I rather wait a few games.
just start Geno, let him learn and go through growing pains and hopefully we will be ready to roll in 2014. Or maybe we catch lightening in a bottle and Geno is THE TRUTH, we already know that Sanchez isnt....
There are a number of good reasons to cut Sanchez if Geno gets the job, 1. McElroy would for the the first time in his 3 years get practice reps during the season. Reps he can use as he has a much better chance of being on the roster in 2014 than Sanchez. 2. From a circus standpoint it would be best to cut Sanchez and not have the media calling for Sanchez if Smith struggles. The last thing the rookie would need would be to have to keep looking over his shoulder and answering questions about the possibility of losing his job and getting benched in favor of Sanchez. 3. The Third reason is simply to get him out of the building. We saw how he acted when Smith was drafted. We saw how Sanchez used the media over and over to publicize his passive aggressive statements guaranteeing he would win the Qb job if it was a "fair" competition. We saw the way he tried to intimidate Geno with his Jets west camp media statements. We saw how he did the same to Tebow last summer. What is he going to do if he loses the job? Claim it was not a fair competition as he has already implied in the media 4-5 times now? The last thing the Jets need is Sanchez trying to undermine the team and coaches decision with the players and the media. He already has Cimini working for him night and day to give the impression he should be the starter. Certainly there is a good argument that it would be best to get Sanchez out of the building and move on. 4. From Rex's standpoint he may have a much better chance of keeping his job if he has the excuse that the Jets had a bad year with a rookie 2nd QB rather than the QB he forced Tannenbaum to trade and pick in 2009 against the scouting departments recommendation. In 2011-12 offseason when there was a split in the FO on whether or not to dump Sanchez Rex won and kept him and Sanchez got the contract extension. Keeping Sanchez around just reminds everyone whose brilliant idea it was to take Sanchez and keep Sanchez. Not to mention the expectation bar is much lower with a rookie QB. 5. Lastly the fans are tired of Sanchez. They will give the Jets and Rex a lot more leeway with Sanchez gone. With a rookie QB there is a lot more optimism and feeling that we are moving forward to a promising future than losing with a QB whose only noteworthy accomplishments are setting NFL futility records each year.
The highest percentage move for 2014-2016 is to do this. 2013 is a different question. If Geno looks like he can handle it you play him. That includes if you think he'll struggle some at the start but he can handle the adversity involved in that process. It's a really tough situation for everybody in a decision-making role to be in. Sanchez clearly is cut material at this point. But if you do that then you have to go with Geno Smith at the start of the season and if he's not ready and cannot handle the adversity that produces then you have an issue.
Matt Simms anybody?? I mean i know its way to early but i got a real good feeling about this guy, although with geno there is little to no possibility of Simms playing.
the biggest problems with that is 1. the cap problem, where they may not have the money to sign somebody mid season should they cut sanchez and I believe they are required to be able to do so. (I think) 2. Idzik doesn't strike me as a guy that will waste talent, if he put tebow on the trading block I imagine he will do the same next year for sanchez before cutting him. best to get a return from him than nothing at all. if those two factors aren't in play then go ahead, but really I don't think it should be necessary. juts let the battle for the 2nd and third string take its course on whats left and move forward.
Cap is not a problem. Cutting Sanchez would cost the Jets an additional 4.5 million on the cap this year and save us 4.5 million on next years cap (as his dead money charge would be 4.5m rather than 9.0 next year). It was reported last week we had 11 million in cap room which is plenty of room to absorb the 4.5 million for cutting Sanchez.
there is no cp problem. mark is sunk cost at this point. cutting him now or cutting a day before the new yer begins in march are no different. 2nd and most important smith/sanchez in a bad year < smith/McElroy in a bad year. worst case scenarios in mind here, it will just be a quiet bad year with a rookie qb if mark is gone. its a 17 week qb controversy if mark is here. so if there is any indication geno can play mark has to be cut
Given the importance of the QB position I wonder if it makes sense to change the way teams operate around the QB position in the off-season. Maybe it would benefit an NFL team to hire more people to work with their QB's in the off-season that they currently have. Have a second and third QB coach, working closely with the main QB coach, work with the guys lower on the pecking order and in close contact with them through the OTA process. Create a semblance of the kind of buy-in for the guys lower in the pecking order that is currently only there for the starter and maybe one main contender. Obviously you can't run your other players ragged to accommodate this type of workout/practice schedule but you could bring in UFA's and second tier NFL players who are out a job and give them some kind of non-contract compensation as workout material for a limited time each spring and summer. Hire them as trainers and workout assistants instead of to a player contract. They get the benefit of staying in view to a franchise and the Jets get the benefit of being able to give Matt Simms nearly the full complement of work that the first and second string QB's get. Once you get into camp most of the extra stuff has to go away but you maintain the extra coaches as a team resource, because they know the players and can make recommendations and they can also assist the main QB coach with his primary charges.
I think you might have your numbers a bit mixed on what he's guaranteed next year (wasn't he making just 4.5 mill guaranteed, not 9 mill next year?) but I'll take your word for it that they have the space, especially considering I hadn't thought of players getting cut no longer mattering anything to the cap. still if he's better than Simms or G-mac theres no use cutting the better player. thats why I said they should let the competition for 2 and 3 play out.
Half the posters here are sniffing glue.....cut Sanchez, lol...gimme a break... what stupid idiotic logic.....like Rex is really going lay his Jet coaching career on the line on a wanabe 2nd round unproven rookie QB and 2 questionable backups????? Kiss the season goodbye - 2-14 here we come !!!!!! LOL Plus the millions the Jets will have to pay Mark to walk away??? LOL,,,,ugh this is so funny.....really LMAO.... You people crack me up......and to think I was scanning these posts to get some good perusing in.....feel like I'm reading an Archie's comic....
The 4.5 and 9.0 next year is dead money (from bonus money already paid out in previous years). Money he has already earned that would be dead. That 9.0 remains constant whether he is cut this year or next year. If was cut before June 1st this year we would have been charged 9.0 in dead money plus his guaranteed salary this year. If he is cut after June 1st this year that 9.0 of dead money is split between this year and next. If he is cut next offseason the 9.0 of dead money is charged to next years cap. Next year he has no guaranteed salary. As you can see over the long run the dead money charge the same its just matter of whether 4.5 is charged this year or next.
Just going to point out, that Rex isn't the one who cuts people. Idzik is. If Idzik decides to cut Sanchez, Rex can scream and holler about it, and then he'll have to start Geno.
I agree with you. If they think Geno can handle the job I figure its 50/50 between Sanchez getting cut and Simms getting cut to drop down to 3 QBs. I think Sanchez will mope around and be a problem if Geno wins the starting QB job. If they've decided that Sanchez doesn't have a future here there's no reason to keep him. Even if Geno goes down you might as well get reps for Mcelroy or Simms (who might learn something and improve). Of course they could also pull a QB who's familiar with MMs system off the waiver wire in which case both Sanchez and Simms would probably be gone.
I don't know that it's so much rigged as it seems as if the organization is at a crosshairs. Rex still wants Sanchez to start, hence his being tough on Geno last week and not calling out Mark for his bs in the actual games. Idzik wants Geno to start, which is why Geno's getting this primetime game and Rex is sounding mealy-mouthed when people ask him if he's going to make a decision.
