NY Rangers 2011-2016 Season + Offseason Thread

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  1. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    I would say that Scott would provide absolutely nothing more than Mitchell in terms of skills, but he does provide intimidation. Mitchell provides absolutely nothing, so yes, Scott right now would be a better option.
     
  2. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Yet somehow, every other player on that line is able to contribute in those shifts, but he isn't?
     
  3. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, but we have to take it to them...
     
  4. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    You're right it was evenly crappy for both teams, one other thing what I meant was there were very few games this year where the Rangers had more PP's than the opposition...
     
  5. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I'll agree to disagree with you, I respect your opinion, I think Scott belongs in a Roller Hockey league, he is dreadful and Kreider doesn't belong on the 4th line...Mitchell is a grinder in the Prust, Boyle, Dubi and Calli mold he and Rupp need more ice time to cycle down low and control the puck below the hashes...
     
  6. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I think they ruin the game when they call every infraction, it takes the flow of the game away...
     
  7. NYJet87

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    Long story short, Scott is not better served in the lineup than Mitchell. That's reckless to think otherwise. As noted before, Mitchell isn't going to be a game changer with his contributions but he's not going to total detriment either. Scott wouldn't be able to keep up out there. The most he could contribute would be to fight Konopka, which really doesn't serve as much of anything. To tell you the truth, I think you would see a Whale player dress before you see Scott.

    PS - If Scott didn't get inserted in the lineup after Game 2 when this series was at it's peak goon-age, there's no chance you see him in now.
     
  8. GordonGecko

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    When is zucarello coming back
     
  9. Johnny English

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    I agree. I think that it's clear that an edict has been sent down from on high to not allow anything to go unpunished by the officials so the players don't feel the need to go exacting their own justice - all of which neatly ignores what happened in game three, where it was very clear that both the Rangers and the Senators had decided to get on with playing good hockey.

    The officials did their best to ruin the game last night, but it was still pretty exciting stuff. I can't believe how many shots your team blocks, it's insanely effective and disciplined play but I do think that it causes them to become over-reliant on their ability to prevent the opposition from scoring. The Rangers need to become a little more offensively minded, I think; we started badly, gave up two soft goals and then you took your foot off our throat.
     
  10. NYJet87

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    It's kind of misleading with the Rangers only focusing on how many saves Lundqvist makes in a given game. The far more telling number is attempted shots. If you take this into account, the Senators must have gotten over 60 shots off last night. Now are some of those 30+ blocked shots going wide or missing high - of course. But the fact they're getting that many looks at a shot isn't good.

    Blocking shots is the Rangers bread and butter, they're always going to block many. You gotta take into account the fact that they're giving up a lot of attempts though. Not good.
     
  11. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Hackett, Mitchell smells but hes far from the big problem on offense.

    I hate to repeat and repeat and repeat the same shit.

    But Dubi and AA are the most unproductive forwards on this team. It is absolutely brutal.

    Bottom line is we have fuckin Dub on the first line right now cuz of hagelin's suspension (not that hagelin belongs there either by the way but thats another story)

    Dubinsky and AA are absolute trash. Its embarrassing. Does AA even have a fuckin shot on goal this series??????

    Too many forwards on this team contribute absollutely zero on this score sheet. ZERO.
     
  12. tcrock

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    Stepan, Dubinsky & Fedetenko are killing me personally, Stepan seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time everytime, and when he's in the right place, he panics. Dubinsky, same thing. Fedetenko nearly gave Neil a goal last night. Staal looked awesome last night so that was encouraging. The D men in general are playing good. Gaborik and Richards need to take it up a notch. Prust, Boyle, Mitchell, Cally, Hank I have no problems with..Rupp should be on the ice more. they've got to shoot on the freakin pp though. They get 2 goals early as a result of throwing it at the net, then on subsequent pp's, go back to passing it around the horn looking for the perfect set up....just shoot. (Oh i think Girardi is a little too nuts with the backboard thing after Game 3...he missed the net an awful lot last night)

    They are still the better team in this series, I don't think Ottawa dictated as much last night as people seem to think. I thought the Rangers dominated the 3rd and started out good in OT as well...although like others I had a bad feeling Ottawa was going to cash in quickly again in OT once my boy Stepan fanned on that setup...sure enough before i got through swearing at that, the puck was behind Hank.
     
  13. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Oh Stepan is another one. His biggest problem is he is as weak on teh puck as anyone in teh NHL. You blow on him and he loses the puck. Same thing for AA
     
  14. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Hate a player a day the Jonny way...:) How about Torts Jonny does he escape your wrath because he shouldn't...
     
  15. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    hahaha

    Firstly, my hate is justified. Im not just a retard yelling at my TV. I played hockey up until 6 years ago when I dislocated my knee at age 33. I figured enough was enough.

    Ive been watching since 1979 ( not as long as you I know )

    My critiques of Dubi and AA are spot on. How anyone could defend these two buffoons is unimagineable.

    Regarding Stepan, I like him. And obviously hes MILES better than Dubi and AA combined.

    But as I said a few weeks ago, hes very, very one dimentional. And his soft play and total lack of any ability in the corners or behind the net, makes him not such a desireable option in playoff play.

    As far as Torts goes, he has his moments when he drives me crazy. Some juggling lines at times when it looks like hes doing it just for the sake of doinf it or his being too conservative at times.

    However, his pros FARRRRR outweigh his cons.

    Hes already won a Stanley cup and to win the Eastern conference with this team is a TREMENDOUS coaching job.

    They have out performed their talent and the effort that he gets out of these guys is obviously unbelieveable.

    His biggest failure this year is not getting the PP going.

    All that being said, the limitations of this team start and end with the lack of goal-scoring.

    And with as much ice time as AA and Dubi get, they are massively unproductive. They are the two biggest stand-outs of our weakest area.

    If I gave you two moves to make this off-season, wat would you do?

    You wouldnt change goalies right?

    I doubt you'd make any changes on the D right?

    So that leaves the front-liners.

    4th line is the 4th line, you wouldnt waste one of your moves there I wouldnt think.

    Youre not gonna touch gabs, cally, Richards, Boyle, Hagelin, Stepan.

    So basically that leaves Feds, Dubi and AA.......so do what you want with that.
     
  16. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    So from all that all I got was your 39! :) AA is a disappointment to me as much as Dubi, who couldn't score in a soccer net! AA softer than melted butter....yeeessshhhhh!!!
     
  17. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    we need a big fuckin win on Saturday, that I can tell you :)
     
  18. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I'm still confident, we control our own destiny...
     
  19. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    That makes no sense. Ottawa controls their own destiny as well. Which means neither team controls their own destiny :)
     
  20. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I mean we have home ice...Dubi wants to know if you jumped in Lake Erie yet? :)
     

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