NY POST-Steve Serby: It's Geno"s week to unseat Sanchez

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  1. AbdulSalam

    AbdulSalam New Member

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    who cares how geno does?? we hate sanchez!! We demand that geno start regardless of how lousy he performs.
     
  2. KWJetsFan

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    Not sure you can teach stonehands how to catch.
     
  3. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    "Blah-blah. Blah....blah....blah.......nonsense.......bullshit.......repeated stupid posts.........blah blah inaccurate information.

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  4. TNJet

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    Please don't let the hairband and fu manchu stache cloud your opinion.
     
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  5. TNJet

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    I always liked watching him get up every play like he got hit by a bus or train. 3yds, fall down, and slowly walk back to the huddle.
     
  6. TNJet

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    Nailed it, lol.:lol:
     
  7. BrooklynJet97

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    If Sanchez scans the whole field or kept his eye on hill the whole way that INT doesnt happen.

    It seems he has improved the route running because he got wide open plenty of times.
     
  8. NoodleArm

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    From the two games, it seems like he's gotten more disciplined with his routes. I know it's parsing a bit, but Hill's problem's never been getting open, so much as it is being where the QB expects him to be. There were tons of times last season where Hill would be sitting out in the soft part of the zone or deep with separation, yet the ball wouldn't be thrown his way because either (1) Sanchez didn't go through his progression, skipping Hill, or (2) Hill wasn't in the place where he was supposed to be. While Sanchez wasn't/isn't the best QB in the world, some of the non-targets have to be due to Hill just running free or a poor offensive scheme. Saturday night was a lot different. It seemed like Hill was making a concerted ever to be where the QB expected. While he did drop the pass in the end zone, I'm not sure that last year's Hill would even be in a position to get two hands on the ball.

    TL;DR: MM's tutelage has definitely helped Hill.

    On topic: I'd rather see Hill drop these passes in practice rather than in the game. Hopefully drops like this reinforce the need for the two to be on the same page, and they can both show up Saturday against a relatively soft Giants secondary.
     
  9. azhar80

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    Sad but true. Geno at this point is just the other guy, fans just want somebody else no matter who, just for a change. However most fans don't take into to account the other guy might actually be worse.

    The grass is not always greener on the other side boys. Stop crying abt Sanchez pick that was almost as much fault of Winslow. Realize that under Sanchez the offense was driving and looked like a competent offense. The Sanchez run at the redzone caused Gates to get open but to throw that pass on the run would've been difficult bcuz of the angle of the defenders, if I remember correctly.

    Again if Sanchez threw 4 picks in practice and followed it up with 2 completions and interception this board would've melted. This is a new system not a 5 year qb in this system. So if it's a fair competition both qb should be judged on ota's, camp, meetings, and Pre season. That's the only rational way to do it.

    Also don't fall for the media crap abt Geno and his ankle. Jets protected him and his future. All it would take is one low hit and he'd be D. Kellered. Geno and Mark are close but at this point you have to believe Sanchez it's winning the competition rightfully so.

    Don't let the hate get in the way or aka criticism
     

  10. Great post.

    Sanchez haters just want change for the sake of change. It just seems like a matter of wanting perfection.

    We know Sanchez isn't perfect & is prone to turnovers. We know he's not the answer or the future.

    But if the offense is moving the ball in the short term & they are putting up points that means we can still win games. That's all that matters.
     
  11. laxin

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    Its not a matter of wanting perfection at all. Its a matter of wanting at the very least a competent QB and leader that shows maturation and improvement.

    Mark hasnt proved to be that, and he's gotten every opportunity to do so. He had a chance to gain clear separation with Geno injured, and IMO only created more question marks surrounding the QB situation.

    The Jets offense didnt move the ball much outside of two very good drives where receivers were running wide open. Thats not a knock against Sanchez because he executed the right throws, but he still has not shown consistency of any sort.
     
  12. I get that he's making mistakes & that he hasn't exactly blown anyone away. I'm not saying we should be excited about the guy.

    But let's bare in mind that we are breaking in a new system w/ alot of new starters being worked in. When looking at the offense holistically we've seen some makings of a functional unit. Compare that to year's past around this time..specifically last year when even a first down was tough sledding..I think there's some reason to be excited.

    We've said that if this offense can be simply average at both protecting the football & scoring points, our defense can put us in position to win alot of games. So far I see those capabilities regardless of who is behind center.

    It's not that I disagree about the negative assessment of Sanchez..I just don't identify w/ completely giving up on the season & "the sky is falling" jut b/c he's the short term starter. We have a good young corps of skill players, a solid OL & the first real competent OC in a long time. That's gotta offset the QB crisis is SOME manner.
     
  13. 101GangGreen101

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    Time to start the #tankforteddy bandwagon it appears ...

    Fans soon enough will be annoyed with both QBs
     
  14. RuJFan

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    PERFECTION?!
    Are you fucking nuts? Show me one quote from anyone who want Sanchez out about perfection. ONE quote

    When it comes to Sanchez NOBODY is asking for perfection. You know what we're asking for? Not winning us games, no.

    Sanchez needs to show that he is capable of NOT LOSING GAMES.

    In his 5th year he still throws in 2++ coverage. He still doesn't know what to do with the fucking ball 6 secs before halftime. He still fumbles... And on and on for 1000 pages of Mark sucks thread.

    I'll strip this whole thing down for you. Mark Sanchez showed that he can't learn. Or, to put it bluntly, Mark is STUPID.


    Now, is Geno better, doesn't he make same mistake, do we know he is better than Mark? We don't know any of this. We do however know that Mark Sanchez is NOT better than Mark. Maybe Geno turns out to be shit, maybe not. Here is the summary of this equation:

    Jets have one QB who is shit, and another who might (or might not) be shit.
    Anyone with half brain will take Geno over Sanchez because "maybe" shit is WAAAAAY better than DEFINATELY SHIT.
     
  15. FJF

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    this is the key, if he is not the future,and he is not, than its time to turn the page.

    I just want a good qb. at this point we are all quite sure mark is not that. geno might be, the sooner we find out the better.

    starting mark might keep us competitive but will not get us closer to the franchise qb we are sorely lacking
     
  16. RuJFan

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    Fuck the new system!!!
    5th year QB needs to know how to go through progression, how to read defenses, what to do with a ball just before half, when to hold it and when to throw it away. IN ANY SYSTEM.

    Mark is unteachably stupid.
     
  17. RIPJimLeonhard

    RIPJimLeonhard Well-Known Member

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    Geno has had several weeks to unseat Sanchez, what makes the author think that he will finish the job in one week? Sanchez will be starting week 1, whether Jets fans like it or not, Geno just hasn't proven he's better yet.
     
  18. Royce Parker

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    Before TC started it seemed like the concencus was "Mark needs to show significant improvement and clearly outplay Geno". Now it seems like we're sliding back into "Well, he gives us the best chance to win" once again. Kind of sad...

    I can only hope that Geno suddenly turns it up a notch or it may turn out to be a painful beginning to the season.
     
  19. laxin

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    I do agree that the sky isnt falling, and that the offense should be better than last year. I think the OL will be better and in turn the run game and pass game. Ivory and Powell should be an upgrade as well, and if Goodson comes back all the better. There's no way our WR's will be worse barring some huge injuries and I am optimistic about the TE situation.

    I do understand the notion that the upgrades elsewhere on offense should offset whoever is at QB. I just dont see any real reason to feel confident with the QB situation if Sanchez is behind center. I wouldnt be very confident behind center either, but at least he would provide some hope for the future. If both QBs make mistakes, its easier to cope with a rookie making mistakes rather than a 5th year vet.
     
  20. JetsFanDoc

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    Listen guys, I have no delusions about what Sanchez and the Jets can be this year...but to say "same old Sanchez" is plain dumb. He has a completion percentage of 64%...hardly same old Sanchez.

    To tell you the truth, ever since that ridiculous lineman pick he through not a minute into the pre-season, he's kinda looked like a stud. But all you remember is the negative because of his recent past. Its understandable, but you still need to realize that this offense as a whole is simply better than it was under Sparano.
     

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