NY Post Jets interest in Jags OC Koetter

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  1. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Having a good ground attack will always be a good thing but it shouldn't be the focus of your offense in today's NFL. You absolutely must have a down field passing attack that scares opposing defenses and can rack up yards and more importantly points quickly.

    The rules are too pass friendly to not take advantage of them like the smart successful teams in the playoffs are.
     
  2. JetsUK

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    the 13-3 Niners say hello
     
  3. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    They had a ridiculously favorable schedule if i remember correctly. Let's see what happens when they face the saints. I don't think it will end well for the niners.
     
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    I think all of you are right. We should only pick a coach from a winning orgaization. That guarantee's success. You know the way Spags succceded with the Rams and the way McDaniel won a Super Bowl with Denver. Childress was terrific in Minnesota. Probably the Packer fans are thankful that they had the courage to hire McCarthy after he led the 31st ranked offense in the league. Maybe the Pat's would have won more Super Bowls if they wouldn't have had to hire a coach run out of Cleveland. Their are good coaches on bad teams and you still need talent to win. It's ok to not say anything if you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  5. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    they did have an easy schedule beingin the NFC West, but also comfortably beat the Steelers as well as beating teams like the Eagles, Bengals, Giants and the Lions
     
  6. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    We're talking about an offensive coordinator position, not a head coach position. We're also talking about a lateral move in this case so 5 years of mediocre performance is certainly relevant.
     
  7. laxin

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    Why did Bill O’Brien take the job at Penn State? Because people like to face challenges and overcome it; it shows character.

    Why would Sean Peyton take the HC job at NO?

    Joe Lombardi and Tom Clements are QB coaches. Becoming an OC would be huge for their career’s.

    And lets not kid ourselves, yes the Jets organization is in a bit of low, but we still have talent on the team. With a good offseason (and bringing either in first would be a HUGE start) this team is back on the map. The reason either of these two would be brought in would be to help our inconsistent QB and offense reach their full potential’s. Yeah it’s a challenge, but everything in life that could significantly benefit you is going to be a challenge.
     
  8. Barcs

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    Running sets up the pass just like passing sets up the run. I don't know why I keep hearing we have to be a pass heavy team to win. This isn't true. It works both ways, and helps tone down offenses with an elite passing game because we limit their possessions. Scoring on each drive is what matters, regardless of whether you run it or pass it. Schotty didn't seem aware of our strengths and weaknesses. If he properly utilized Greene this year, instead of waiting until we're behind to run, or pass constantly when we need to run out the clock, we'd be at least 10-6. I'll take anyone over Schotty at this point.
     
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    If the Jets could get 6 games a season against the Rams, Seasicks and Cardinals, they too could have won their division
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I think the actual sentiment (at least for me) is more along the lines of we need to be able to exploit the rules that make passing the ball so easy now like other teams are doing. I don't want to be stuck riding in a horse and buggy while other teams are riding around in corvettes. That's a tough race to win, no matter how badass rex says the horses are.
     
  11. AarontheJet

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    I have no confidence in Sanchez throwing the balls 50 times an us getting a win.
     
  12. JetsUK

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    I misunderstood you when you said "why dont the jets go and get someone that knows how to run a successful offense" i thought you meant go and get the OC from a successful team - which i could not see happening. If you mean why dont the jets go and get an assistant coach from a good team then I agree, they should, and they would likely come as its a lot more money.

    I expect Bill O'Brien and Sean Payton took the jobs with Penn State and NO because they more than doubled their salaries as a result of the move rather than for the challenge.

    edit: although I am sure in interviews they claimed it was for the challenge and they are not motivated by money at all etc etc!
     
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    I disagree, it might be sufficient but it's not a necessity. If the Jets defense didn't shit the bed in '09/'10 we would have made the SB and we had nothing close to an aerial attack.

    The Ravens have an excellent chance of making the SB this year and they don't have an aerial attack. Same goes for the 49ers.

    The last 4 SB have showed a penchant for having an aerial attack, but I still don't think that means its a prerequisite moving forward.
     
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    They still went 8-2 against everyone else.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    The thing is, it's becoming more and more difficult to slow down other teams passing attacks because of the rules. The passing numbers were up significantly across the league this year because of even more rule changes that hurt defenses and help offenses.

    The league is changing quickly, we shouldn't be building a team to be the best team in 2009. We need to be building a team to be the best team in 2012 and beyond.

    I believe it's going to take innovate solutions on the defensive side of the ball to offset the offensive rule changes and create a truly dominant defense in the NFL. There aren't any anymore. You either have to come up with the creative changes on the defensive side of the ball that no one has come up with yet or copy the high powered passing attacks that quite a few teams are already running. What are you putting your money on?

    As for the ravens, the have an excellent down field attack. I don't believe the niners will be able to keep pace with the saints.
     
  16. Poeman

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    This is fucking embarrassing
     
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    Could Garrard be our man? This may be indicative.
     
  18. laxin

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    He’ll be 34. With a broken back... And never really did anything that would indicate he would be better than Sanchez for the future of this franchise, let alone right now. If you are talking back ups, there are better options out there. No way in hell Garrard would start here.
     
  19. sg3

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    I think we should bring in Y A Tittle if Garrard isn't available!!!
     
  20. JetRizing89

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    id rather keep schotty if these are the available options
     

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