Disagree. Kerley played well outside in 2012. He is better in the slot but that does not mean he can't be an option on the outside.
A Nelson/Decker pairing surely lacks a lot of speed and chances to get separation from good cbs..we need a big season from Kerley
These two guys can beat man to man cover - Both are excellent route runners, and are physical at the LOS. They don't have elite speed, but they can still get separation. A vertical threat will still need to emerge from this team. Geno can throw a pretty good deep ball we need to build on that.
HILL WILL BE OUR STARTING #2 WR!!!!!!! JUST AS SOON AS NELSON, KERLEY, EVANS, AMARO, SAUNDERS, FORD, CAMPBELL, GATES, HAKIM, ENUNWA AND SALAS GET INJURED
I kind of got it....the pecking order of touches will probably go: Decker - Amaro - Kerley - Ivory - CJ - #2 WR
1st option in Jets passing offense -Decker 2nd option in Jets passing offense - Kerley 3rd option in Jets passing offense - TE 4th option in Jets passing offense - CJ Need me to dumb it down anymore for you?
I still think Hill is going to take the #2 spot. Costello seems to be the only one claiming Nelson is favored. Hill is better suited for the role if he continues to improve his timing and keeps his drop rate low. He's really fast, if he can match his talent up to that physical speed he could be the deep threat we've always needed. I'm surprised we haven't used Kerley much as a deep guy either, because he's a burner as well.
but if Nelson is the number 2 who's there to be the number 3? everybody knows that Decker is a high end number 2 type, Kerley is the number 2.5 and 3/4 and Hill is nothing but a 3.1415926535 at best. Did I mention how much I hate arbitrarily numbering wide receivers and am baffled by how little sense it makes? Ignoring that bullshit, lets acknowledge the fact that the wide receiver corps is having a youth movement. If you can believe it the eldest receiver on the team will be the soon to be 28 year old Nelson, who's also had the most seasons underneath his belt among WR's on the roster next to Decker and Ford. he's also displayed very capable if average play at wideout, stepping in about as well as one could expect from a "man off the streets" as it were. and oh yeah he's dirt cheap. Now it'd be nice to see Shaq Evans or another rookie step up and become a starting receiver next to Decker and JK but their still rookies remember. they need an example, they need a bit of time, and frankly having a guy like Nelson play the role of stopgap makes all the sense in the world given that information. Just as well, while theres a thought process behind how wide receivers should be paired up, the big bulky possession man at X, the quick burner and separator playing flanker and the small but shifty slot receiver, those roles don't have to be abided by exactly. in this offense, good route running and knowledge of where to go and when COUNT more than diversity of skill set. of course bing quick helps, but knowledge, good technique and sure hands mean more. With that in mind its very possible for Nelson to get most of the starting reps next to Decker and kerley, in fact its a rather logical assumption unless Hill puts EVERYTHING together in the next two months. (he feels better in a circumstantial role anyhow) That might not be what we thought we'd get in an upgraded O, but its a very likely scenario when you think about it.
Seems like ever cpl of years a star WR comes from nowhere from the bottom of the draft. Giants and Saints were the last teams to benefit from this phenomenon. Idzik grabbed 3 late round WRs this year so maybe it's our turn! Donte Moncrief (Colts) is the early favorite but it'd be awesome if 3 months from now Enunwa is the new guy Revis struggles to cover and announcers struggle to pronounce 10 times a game.
Don't wanna turn this thread into another "Hill debate"..but I truly believe him winning the #2 job is in the best interest of the Jets whole offense,permitted he earns it. Even if he doesn't have great hands...if he can give you 4-5 chunk plays a game with his speed & size he becomes a major asset who opens things up for others who DO have great hands(Decker/Kerley/Amaro/CJ). While I think the jets are in better shape at the #2 spot either way,Nelson offers a "hold the fort option".Though he's nothing special, he is very reliable & has great intangibles. Kerley presents an interesting dilemma on a number of fronts: He's likely the 2nd best receiver on the roster..but he is far better suited for the slot. Additionally, as he good as he is...is a 3 WR formation w/ say CJ/Decker/Hill/Kerley/Amaro better than a 2 TE set w/ CJ/Decker/Hill/Amaro/Cumberland?? Think long & hard before answering that. Both present a defense w/ alot of problems. I guess it's a good problem to have.
It really shouldn't be debatable. If Hill wins the job, it's in the best interest of the team (unless he wins it by default). Nobody offers that sort of upside. Barring injuries, if David Nelson is our primary WR2 by week 6, that's a mild disappointment. Nelson is alright, but like you said, he's a hold the fort option. He can have a role, but it's much better if one of the younger options takes the spot. The Jets will be using a lot of different formations this year. Assuming CJ and Decker are in on almost all 3rd down sets, that leaves Kerley, Cumberland, Amaro, Saunders, Hill, Nelson, Evans, etc to play around with (whoever makes the roster). Since we don't have a clear #2 receiver, Marty will likely mix and match to get the best out of everyone active for the game.
Why is no one as excited as with how dynamic this offense could compared to past years? I remember a recent thread saying this years defense is going to be the youngest and most talented defense he has had since he has been here. How about the fucking offence with a MUCH better OC also in years past with Year 2 of his philosophy being installed. I'm stoked! Not trying to derail the thread so I will comment on the thread... Devid Nelson is obvious stop gap ; Hill has upside and maybe could have hope for future growth with the team
I'm really trying to get excited about our offense, which is the key to the Jets exploding onto the NFL this season. I think there may be a few too many question marks at this point to get really excited: 1)Which Geno will we get? 2)Will Decker transform our receiving corps? 3)How much gas is left in CJ2K's tank? 4)Can Amaro become our Gronk? 5)Can our re-vamped O-Line regain it's form? 6)Can any of our rookie WRs contribute this season? All signs are pointing UP to all these question so ya, there's reason to be optimistic, which is one below super excited.
If you're optimistic, there's reason to be excited. If you're pessimistic, there's reason to be worried. Quarterback is a question mark with some promise. Running back looks exciting on paper, but both Chris's have something to prove - CJ that he's not washed up and Ivory that he can carry a bigger load. Wide receiver has one solid starter in Decker and a huge question mark. There are a lot of possible answers to mix and match the #2 slot and make it work, but right now, there's no single player to feel great about. Tight end could feature 3 solid receiving options in Amaro, Cumberland and Sudfeld. Or it could completely disappoint. Offensive line looks average on paper. The young depth could step up and improve the unit, or it could disappoint when called upon and the line could deteriorate a bit. Every position has major question marks. If all goes well, it can be pretty good, but it all starts with the quarterback taking care of the ball. If that position improves, the rest is far more likely to fall in place.
I think people here are putting way too much in Amaro stepping right in as a great TE. I like the pick and think he will be good but it will be tough year 1. Even Gronk wasn't a star as a rookie. 500-600 yards from Amaro would be a good season.
No but we brought in a backup from Philly to try and beat out who should have been last years backup. Our QB situation isn't all that different than when Mark was here.
Gronk may not have put up great receptions and yardage as a rookie, but he still caught 10 TDs. And Amaro isn't the same type of player as Gronk. He's a huge body with great quickness and decent route running that has a shitload of experience lining up away from the line. I'll be surprised if he is inline more than lined up either outside our in the slot this year, as the work on his inline skills throughout the season in practice. Cumby is a halfway decent blocker, so is Sudfeld, but tbh I'll be surprised if Sudfeld beats out one of the better blocking TEs in camp. I expect him to be traded before the season starts, although a selfish part of me hopes he isn't.
This is the best summation of the current outlook of this season that I've seen. Please tell me that they will make you a feature writer soon. It's sad to read the alternative.
