Name me one QB who sucked as bad as Tebow does at throwing the ball and got drafted? He will never develop into a good passer. No player thats that bad at throwing the ball will ever develop into a passing QB. Why u think opition QB never get drafted?
What makes you think he was bad at throwing the ball in college ? I mean, he had better passing stats than Peyton Manning.
But why is that the issue -- isn't the only relevance of that game to the Jets (and Jets fans) is whether it revealed potential in Tebow? In evaluating a player, you have to look at what he did. And it seems like the response to a very good performance (against a very good defense) is "the kicker did it and Marion Barber ran out of bounds." Those are reasons why the game was won, but Tebow's 18-24 close out remains.
This is what baffles me as well...People evaluate Tebow through a prism as if he is some sort of seasoned veteran, and not evaluating him as a first year starter...Through his first 16 starts he did pretty darn well. He'll never be the most accurate passer in the world, but with more experience, he'll at least know what defenses are doing and know where to go with the ball, which will increase his completion % exponentially. The fact that Tebow was inexperienced and often just simply didn't know where to go with the ball had every bit as much to do with his suspect passing numbers as his accuracy did. This was my feeling as well...I watched all of Tebow's games last year (Sunday Ticket coupled with a DVR is a godsend!!) and they seldomly had more than 2 recievers running routes until the end of games when they had no choice. Once Tebow had 4 or 5 recievers out there, he played really well.
out of curiosity did you see many checkdown options? I kind of felt they were using Tebows feet as the #1 checkdown on several occasions, but it could have just been my perception
A little of both imo. There were times when a back was the check down and Tebow clearly saw him, but didn't throw to him. Not sure if it was a trust issue ? Or Tebow wanting to go for more yards / bigger play ?
I saw in Gruden's qb camp one of the things Gruden brought up was Tebow was maybe too often greedy for the home run ball, hopefully he grows out of it...thank for the response
Tebow was the #1 checkdown option mostly...More often than not, the RB's and TE's were left in for max protection and Tebow just scrambled if the 2 WR's weren't open. I thought the Broncos probably should have ran more easy screen plays for the RB, as they rarely did so. These simple plays can help a QB build confidence and build some rythm, but for whatever reason, they hardly ran screens. Their formula ended up getting them to the divisional round though, so maybe the coaching staff knew what they were doing, but I thought the playcalling had room for improvement.
At or within the 28 yard line (i.e. a 45 yard field goal or less) the average NFL kicker has greater than a 50% chance of making said FG, according to raw data. IMO if the quarterback sets his kicker up for a FG that he, statistically, should make, then the QB has done his job.
the numbers on Prater are pretty interesting. As much as he is being touted for some clutch kicks, he didn't contribute as much as one would expect. Pretty much in line with the Jets Nick Folk. I was actually pretty suprised
ok, gotcha, and agree completely. (I thought you might have been saying that the QB shouldn't get any credit if the team got the ball at the 28 yard line, or even closer. Was like, "Duh". ) BTW, when playing in Denver, you can add something like 5-8 yards onto that distance due to the altitude and thinner air.
Have you seen him throw it to a check down? The guy is 10 yards from him and the throw is 5 yards short. I live in Denver, everyone except old ladies are so glad Tebow is gone. Everyone realizes how lucky he was last year and it cannot be repeated. How many teams has Tebow beat twice? He scored 3 points against the Chiefs in a clutch game to win the division. I don't want to hear how clutch he is, he sucked that game and most games. He is only successful in the spread. Once teams got tape on it, Denver lost. If Tebow plays any considerable amount for the Jets, they will go 6-10.
If you Denver fans knew anything about football you would know that the Broncos rarely ran the spread.... They mostly ran the option out of a bunch formation...Only when they were forced to throw at the end did they run something that could be called a spread offense. Option offense does not necessarily = spread offense....don't get the two confused.
I belong to the broncos forums for years and the only way I can say it is this way: You are not telling the truth. Tebow had a legion of fans in Denver and still does. Your "once the team got tape on it" exposes you as well. lets review the late season losses : New England : Tebow had one of his best games of the year throwing for 200 and running for 120 "the tape they had did nothing" Buffalo Bills : tebow was playing well and the offense was moving well until midway through the 3rd quarter when the Bills took a big lead and the read otpion was abandoned for pass first offense . Tebow played the worst quarter of his life but it had nothing to do with tape. Kansas City : bad game but the Chiefs also stopped Green bay! IN fact they did the same thing they did the first game when there was no tape. Steelers: Great game, tape did nothing and they stacked the box because they had to or tebow would have had 200 yards rushing (he had 50 and a TD with 9 in a box all day as it was). New England : scored 35 points by half time , offensive game plan abandoned. Tape on tebow had no bearing on outcome.
Not a denver fan, but nice try only live in Denver. Nobodyb is sad to see him leave and think the Jets are a joke for trading for him. 4 out of the five games you are talking about are loll loses and Tebow played like crap. Look at his QB rating as well as yards per rush. They dropped significantly. If he was not part of the losses, then don't give him credit for the wins. Bottom line, your "winner" lost 4 of 5.
