I heard pre-draft people were saying stay away. And then he doesn't make the team, and I believe gets traded in his rookie season. Then cut by that team.
The Rams scooped him up and he already has the same amount of sacks that Henry Anderson has in his last 19 games. He's a good example of someone who didn't adjust well to the NFL (I believe he was perpetually late to meetings or something?) and needed someone to put his arm around him and say hey guy wake the fuck up or you will be shipped out. And no one did that. We just cut him before any chance of developing him. Right. But the point is to get a really good player and try to get invited to the dance every year or as frequently as possible. A lot for the aforementioned QB's did just that. Not a lot of different teams have won SB's over the past 20 years. It's the ultimate goal but you have to start by being in the playoffs as much as possible.
Signing Darnold to team friendly short term deal wouldn’t be bad thing. This way can secure him and ether keep him or trade him. Just in case we dont get Lawrence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Point differential is not even a thing in football. A team with higher strength of schedule will end up ahead. What I am saying is, yes, sure we prefer not to go 0-16 with terrible goal differential, but it just does not matter at this point. The Jets are already looked at as one of if not the most pathetic franchise in recent memory. What can change this if we can build around a star QB, and there seems to be a generational talent available in the draft at #1 spot. It does not really matter if record is 0-16 with worst differential, or 3-13 with not the worst differential. As long as we get #1. We need this guy to change the fortune of what has been really a pathetic franchise since 1998 with a few exceptions - last time we had a star performance from QB spot and actually were considered title contenders.
Oh for sure. Not to mention they also lost Prescott for the year. Still looks like a REALLY bad situation in that locker room though
You missed my point. Its not about him being a sure thing or not. Its about whether he will even come out and if he does would even consider going to the worst team in the NFL? One that has shown a propensity to fail at re-building over the last decade? No one knows what this kid will do.... But I do know one thing, being the worst team in the NFL - talent and coaching wise - is a determent, even if we drafted him.
Borat, no disagreement here, but first things first. . If we don’t have a new CS in place long before draft time, 1st pick or not we can kiss Trevor good bye. There is no way in hell he will want to come to the Jets if Gase is still the coach. The kid is not stupid and he will want a coach that knows what to do with his talents, not one that destroys them. Fuck, not even Flacco could agree with his game plan.
If he comes out, he will have go to the worst team in NFL - that's what first overall picks do, for better or worse. If he stays an extra year, he will still go to the worst team in NFL. Plus, he already said it will more than likely be his last season. He has nothing to prove, already won NC. The only guy I remember who didn't want to play for a team was Eli Manning, and Charges didn't have to trade him. They did because there were similar guys, like Rivers, available. Before that Eli put Charges hat on, posed for pictures, and that's it. As sure as you are writing here, Gase will be gone at the latest right after season is over. This is one thing I am not worried about. I am more worried about winning 1 more meaningless game than needed for #1 overall. This team is capable of winning a few games. Sam, though inconsistent, can put together a couple of good games, and Perriman looks like a real deal too. With Becton and Mims back, I am not sure we will be going 0-16, and I hope other tankers will just win a bit more.
Womp womp. https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/10/14/21516741/adam-gase-former-players-jachai-polite-rams
Borat, What is he says I do not want to play for NYJ...then what? Stay with Sam, trade Sam for what ever we can get, etc. Thoughts
Therein lies my biggest displeasure. JD as a good GM has released or traded players based significantly on inputs from Gase. He is not trading players if Gase object to it. At this point it should be abundantly clear Gase should not provide another input period, as it is always to the detriment of this team. Stay pat JD until this talent destroyer is gone.
Nice to know how you feel.passive aggressive much? Hows that all star 2020 WR corps you kept talking about? I bet you DO rationalize it by calling me a lunatic.
I can't see a scenario where anyone would say that. Eli is really the only example I can think of of someone who did, and he still had no choice but to put Charges hat on and pose for the pictures when Charges drafted him, and would have no choice but to play or lose millions if they didn't trade him. NFL rules are such that a guy out of College can't really dictate the terms. Bell was the guy who actually did this, and he had to sit out a year after full rookie deal and a franchise tag. If it were up to me, I would not trade this guy no matter what he said. You'd better believe if we secure #1, whatever coach we get will be with Trevor in mind, and selected by JD. I have full confidence Trevor will be here playing for the new coach if we end up with #1.
This is why I've lost considerable faith in Douglas; he's run the Jets in lockstep with Gase, and that's disturbing.
Well the reason why they are looked at as 'the most pathetic franchise in recent memory' is point differential, not their 0-6 record. If they made a game of it I would not have any issue - just show that you're an NFL team for cripes sake. For one, how do we know what Trevor's thinking when he sees this 'pathetic' franchise on their performance? Do you or I know for sure that he'll play for the Jets? I don't, so if you have inside info, please show us! That point differential has an influence on one's frame of mind. 6 TD's in 6 games, that's bad. It's not just the coaching, the players have to be made accountable also. Last year they were bad , now they are worse. Can they get worse in 2021? Regarding contenders, we didn't need a star QB when Rex took us to the AFC Championships 2 years in a row. And many thought that team was better than Pittsburgh. My point, we don't need Trevor to right this ship as I mentioned here many times. Get us a good coach do some good drafting/signing. .
Well if for crazy reason we win a couple of games, they may change mind like last year. And CJ keeps drinking the koolaid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Compelling story! What if Gase the real issue and Mac not so much! Lol. Mac was bad, so what does this say about Gase. https://jetswire.usatoday.com/lists...e-maccagnan-era-leveon-bell-trumaine-johnson/ The photo of Mac shows he was clueless. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I do see a scenario where Lawrence stays in school. They keep Gase to be his QB whisperer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No point of firing Gase before seasons end. If we're really going to finish 0-16? No better person to wear that badge of honor (shame) than Adam Gase himself. Go 0-16. Get rid of Gase. Find a real head coach and draft Trevor Lawrence. The 0-16 stink will immediately become a thing of the past with a better locker room culture moving forward. Get the #1 pick and I'm confident a coach such as Jim Harbaugh would love to rejoin the NFL with Trevor Lawrence to build around.
