Macc's first move was to give David Harris a large extension ($15m guaranteed), only to cut him 2 years later despite Harris actually being closer to living up to his contract than ANY of the other guys he threw big money at (Revis, Skrine, Cro, Wilkerson, Fitzpatrick).?? and he waits until after minicamp to cut Harris and Decker when both guys are in contract years anyway. Why not cut them in January? Why not keep em?? They will off the books after the season anyway..... he throws all this money at other people while letting the best run stuffer on the team (Harrison) walk, then realizes he needs to draft a LB in the first round to help with stopping the run...??? he's gonna let possibly the most talented player on the defense (Richardson) walk in FA for absolutely nothing after the season. Meanwhile holding onto that asset in the short term isn't even helping us ANYWAY as he's being played out of position, misused and having his potential stunted... and how do we continue to have a shitty offensive line???? he steps into a situation with loads of cap room and an offensive line everyone knew was aging and been ignored for too long. He blows through the cap room elsewhere, has 3 years of drafts where he ignores the line and somehow that offensive line is even shittier today....HOW do you let that happen??
well lets be fair here. it's hard to even fully count the 2016 draft and impossible to guage the 2017. really the only draft you can grade form him is the 2015 draft. also again looking at the roster in 2014 when he took over, our roster is better now. He did blow a ton of cap and we got a 10-6 season out of it. not the push we wanted as we didn't make the playoffs but still. now the roster took a step back and we are full on rebuild but still it's better then it was in 2014
I am being fair. I am not saying he should be fired. But he is not a good gm, yet. And if he goes 0-16 this year he may never be. If this team is winless there should be no survivors
I understand jet fans are frustrated but the reason we've sucked for over 4 decades is because we change staffs like people change underwear. The jags fired coughlin after 1 bad season and he went to the giants and won them 2 SBs. the steelers have had 2 coaches in the past 20+ years cowher and tomlin. pats have had 1 for over a decade. these are teams that win all the time. the redskins do the same as us and they suck and have for a while. You can't be good by changing your coaching staff ever 3-4 years. You have to make a choice and stick with it for better or for worse. He deserves the chance to see the rebuild through. He took over a shitty team, and the fans and ownership wanted instant sucess so we leveraged the cap. the rebuild SHOULD have began in 2014. woody fucked that up. we lost 3 years already. now we are finally doing it right. he needs to be allowed to see it though. As far as bowles goes, hard to blame him if we suck. look at the roster. But I wouldn't care either way personally. But mac should stay for at least 3 more years to finish the rebuild. rome wasn't built in a day
The reason we have sucked is because we can't draft for shit. When you can draft your roster starts filling up with talent and 3 years later you are not the worst team in the league because that talent gets you wins. 3 years here now is long enough for macs moves to start earning him wins. I don't need to give him another 3 to find out if he can rebuild.
Again look at ours and compare to the other 32 teams. I just showed that in 2016 and 2015 the pats had 20 picks and only 1 was a good one. and that 1 wasn't anything special. the pats aren't loaded with talent, they have good coaching and a franchise QB and a bunch of role players. who have the pats drafted that have been so great?
The title of this thread should be renamed, "whiners, nitpickers and dooms day button pushers, post here"... can we at least wait till about the 4th game into the regular season before we go all to pieces with this team? shheesshh.
McCagnan is getting a chance to see if his draft picks over the past three years work out. On offense he picked Hackenberg, Petty, Stewart, Hansen, Smith, and Shell. What if Watson, Lynch, Mahomes, or Kizer become franchise passers? Petty and Smith already look to be busts. If the other four can't play and if Darron Lee doesn't improve a lot from last year then he does not deserve the chance to blow another draft class.
You cherry picked 1 team with the goat qb in a league heavily slanted towards qbs to support your argument. Now I feel like I am being dragged away from my original point which was mac is not a good gm. Period. He may become one later down the road but as of right now he does not have enough on his resume to be considered that and to be ready to give him another 3 years based on what he has done to date is laughable
well tribuski who i wanted lit it up the 1st game of the preseason. as far as his drafts 2014 Pryor - semi bust traded him for davis to come back amaro - bust mcdougle - bust saunders - bust evans - bust dozier - not bad for 4th rounder george - bust dixon - bust enunwa - Steal IK - bust boyd - bust reilly - good pick for a 7th rounder So 2014 pretty much sucked. he did a great job with enunwa in the 6th, reilly and dozier werne't bad for where they were picked. the rest is garbage 2015 Williams - great pick smith - bust Moulden - solid for a 3rd rounder Petty - solid back-up for a 4th round pick harrison - great pick for a 5th Simon - steal in the 7th Overall: Great draft. williams already won DROTY and made a porbowl in 2 seasons. Moulden is our starting OLB, petty is a solid back-up, harrison is a solid back-up with starter potential, and simon is a solid back-up with starter potential. Only bad pick is smith but injuries derailed him. had he been able to stay healthy who knows. 2016 Lee - jury still out Hack - jury still out Jenkins - solid pick. will start at OLB for us Burris - solid pick,fighting for starting job. played well when he played Shell - great pick, solid back-up with starter potential Edwards - bad pick, worst punter in the NFL Peake - steal of a pick. solid 3-4 WR in the 7th UDFA - anderson great find UDFA marshall decent find Overall while the jury is still out on our top 2 picks the rest of the draft minus edwards has been pretty dam good. plus finding 2 good UDFA deserves credit. 2017 can't judge obviously So yeah the 2014 his 1st draft was bad. but the next 2 years were pretty dam good. and i know people love to nitpick but look at other teams drafts, every team misses on a majority of picks. even the pats have drafted shitty for the past 2-3 years
I picked what is the best team in the NFL who just won the SB despite drafting shitty. It's not like i cherry picked the browns or jags or rams. i'll look at other good teams Steelers 2016 2nd rounder davis was the only good pick 2015 coates in the 3rd and james in the 5th were good picks 2014 Shazier and bryant were great picks. they drafted wesley johnson who didn't make the team his rookie season and we signed and is now starting for us So they got 5 good players out of 3 drafts (24 picks) 2 of their 1st rounders aren't very good out of the 3 they picked. How about the falcons, they just made a SB They had some good picks. freeman was a steal,coleman is good, beasley is a beast, fuller isn't bad, neal is solid, jake matthews is solid. 6 out of 22 Realistically speaking most teams are lucky to get 1 pro bowler and 1 or 2 other solid players each draft out of 7 picks. league average is under 50% for player sucess in the draft there are 1728 players in the NFL in the past 3 years about 700 draft picks. there are more players then jobs by far which is why most players don't make it in the NFL. You can't pretend that every team drafts all studs except the jets.
Even more of a reason to trust in mac. in that case his 2 drafts we can evaluate have been pretty dam good then and at least his top 2 picks in the 2017 draft seem like they are going to be good as well
