No More Captains? Who is Rex kidding?

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  1. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    Look, I agree about coachspeak. But pretending that Holmes's behavior was a tempest in a teapot and then saying, "I screwed up by naming captains" is laughable and guarantees I won't tune in for any other Rex PCs during this off season.
     
  2. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    congrats, you discovered that Rex Ryan is full of shit when he talks at press conferences. FTR, he absolutely made a mistake naming the captains.
     
  3. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    OK. So do you think if Holmes wasn't a captain things would have turned out differently yesterday?
     
  4. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    What do you want him to say? He admitted a mistake, that's a rare and admirable trait.

    Santonio Holmes has a Super Bowl ring and has come up huge in tough spots before, that's probably why he was given a 'C'.
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I think that Holmes is a punk who felt empowered by being named a captain. I think that he is a very selfish person who cares about himself over all else and is the exact opposite of a leader. I think that Holmes felt he didn't have to fall in line with the rest of the team because he was a "captain".

    I won't try and predict what may have happened yesterday if Holmes wasn't a captain.
     
  6. ouchy

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    This is how most teams do it.

    I dont know about the "no captains the last two years" stuff. Every week before kickoff each team sends captains out to meet for the coin flip.

    Every team has captains. They usually lead drills in practice, are available for advice for rookies and new free agents, etc.

    They also are supposed to be players that can motivate. When they go out for the coin flip they are the teams living flag - the standard that says "these guys represent what we are all about" to the other team.

    Having captains is a positive for every team in the league...except the Jets.
     
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  7. colleen74

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    He obviously did it in the first place because he KNEW that Holmes was a potential cancer and thought/hoped the move would inspire him to be a team leader, and feel more connected to the team. It could have worked... but it didn't because Holmes is a douchebag. Had it worked, you'd all be singing Rex's praises for being a great coach and team motivator.
     
  8. displacedfan

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    No he didn't have season long captains. He gave game captains to people who he thought needed it or had some connection to the other team. He used those to motivate specific players or the team on gameday. Otherwise, the captains in the lockerroom didnt need a C, within the team they already knew.
     
  9. MexicanJet

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    Fuck this shit. Just fucking worry about winning football games. I don't care if he named Wayne Hunter as a captain, we didn't win games when it mattered.
     
  10. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    I agree with your analysis.
     
  11. Ohio Jet

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    You need veteran leadership on a team. Captains can help that as the coaching staff or the players, depending how they are named, gives added legitimacy to the title. Veteran leadership on the field should have called out players for mental mistakes and lack of physical effort. Ryan making Holmes a captain was a joke and helped undermine veteran leadership this year.

    Ryan should go to Mangold and Revis and make them the offensive and defensive captains. He should let him know he needs more from them next year then just their individual efforts. Who is not going to take Captain Revis or Captain Mangold getting in their face for a blown assignment or mental mistake.

    This team played with a lack of discipline and personal accountability all year. It is inexcusable that this team is not in the playoffs this year.
     
  12. Barcs

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    Rex is an honorable guy. He just won't publicly bash anyone on his roster. That's not a bad thing, and doesn't mean that Rex doesn't care or won't address the issues. Rex saw the guy passionately involved and working with other players, so he made him captain. You are acting like Rex was so stupid to do that. C'mon MAN! Nobody can predict the future.
     
  13. ouchy

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    Well said. Teams are like mini cultures.

    Creating a "culture of winning" requires a lot of help, work, and discipline. With a defined chain of command.

    You dont create a winning culture by talking.
     
  14. KWJetsFan

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    Absolutely. I said it in another thread that they tried the Namath tactic. The Jets made Namath captain because he acted immature and irresponsible all the time. They figured if they gave him responsibility, he would rise to the occasion and act accordingly.

    Namath did. Holmes did not.
     

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