I never understood why people want Rex to be super involved in this offense, especially in May. Rex is a defensive coach. Always has been, always will be. Most coaches have a side they specialize in. Rex may be more specialized than most, but he should spend more time with his strength. Do people in New Orleans think Sean Payton should be more involved in the defense? If the team stinks, Rex deserves blame for it. If that involves the offense playing horrifically like it did last year, Rex's flaws absolutely become magnified. And that's completely fair. But he doesn't need to be nearly as involved in the offensive install as the defensive install. That's not his expertise. He does need to have a good relationship with his offensive coordinator, work together to figure out an overall plan for this offense, and if need be, dictate what needs to happen or get rid of him. Marty Mornhinweg will be Rex's last offensive coordinator with the Jets. He can't go through another offensive coordinator without providing playoff results. Rex is responsible for the offense with his job. Doesn't mean he should concentrate more of his energy on it.
Funny thing is is that most great coaches lean on their strength for years until they full take part in the entire organization
At least give Rex credit for realizing that his idea of just pounding the ball on offense was outdated and that the knowledge he got from working with Brainless 1 and Brainless 2 was crap.
Once a homer, always a homer.. What was the point in promoting Thurman to DC if Rex was going to run the defense anyway? He could have remained "Asst DC" or whatever his old title was. The reality is Rex is the DC. We could keep everyone in their present positions and then hire a HC that knows how all three units fit together and be able to run them in a more traditional manner. Maybe having this new structure is a sign of things to come and the Jets are really innovators. Maybe Idzik has signed off on all of this. I have a feeling we'll know sooner than later. New Org Chart: DC-----OC at the top, fill in below as required.
Promoting Thurman to DC makes it impossible for Pettine to take him to Buffalo with him for one. He gets paid more and has more responsibility even if he isn't calling the defense on Sundays. Other teams can't hire him as a DC now.
Here is a big surprise for all Jets fans regarding this news. Our good friends over at BSPN Skip and Stephen on First Take of course use the information to pound the Jets once again. Basically accusing Rex, once again, of having no control of the team. Accusing MM of being on the same level of Tony Sparano and Shotty. Talking about divisions and schisms within the team with no proof of that statement what so ever. You have to see it to believe it, classic proof once again that BSPN has an agenda to crap on the Jets and more pointy Rex at every turn. I hope, for no other reason at this point, that the Jets do well this year so when BSPN comes calling to talk about this great turnaround, the Jets players and staff can tell them to GFT!!!!!!!!
sean payton is the de facto o.c. in new orleans yet they have an o.c. many h.c. have a hands on approach to their side of the ball and still have coordinators on staff. this isnt a revolutionary thing. its only news because its rex and the jets
Thank goodness for level headed Jets fans. You can be really good at working on computers. Some people are really good at tweaking Windows/Linux with registry hacks and rpm scripting and troubleshooting the OS. Some people are really good at hardware and can overclock like there's no tomorrow, and combine the right proc with the right memory for best performance. It depends on what side of the equation you grew up on. It takes a long time to master both and know both cold to the point where you don't need to google anything. I would have to assume its the same thing for being a head coach in the NFL.
It's no different then Gary Kubiak being the HC of the Texans with Wade Phillips being in charge of the defense. Saints and Packers do the same thing Those 3 teams are SB contenders so it can work.
Posts like this irk me. People just hate Rex for the sake of hating him. Never, once, did Rex say he wasn't going to coach the team. Never, once, did Rex say he was going to focus on D and ignore the offense. Yeah, the words fell out of his mouth, BECAUSE YOU PUT THEM THERE. Ignore the contradictions, folks, people will stretch anything they can and grasp at straws in pitiful attempts to tarnish his image. I swear you guys are just programmed to say these generic nonsensical remarks. Pure stupidity and people over analyzing media drama. People are so ridiculous with the ALL or NOTHING mentality. People seem to think that Rex calling plays means that Thurman will do nothing. That is such nonsense. Rex is grooming him to be a good DC and it doesn't mean he will ignore offense. He has a much better OC in place than he's ever had on this team. He can lean on him more, unlike Schotty and Sparano. People need to put the blind Rex hatred aside. He's using his strengths to help the team. Big deal. I can't believe people are up in arms about this. But again, those same SOJ fans said it last year as well when he said he would focus more on offense. SOJF is a SOJF. Context and consistency be damned.
SOJFs in 2011: Rex is incompetent! Why is he focusing on defense and ignoring the offense!!? What's the point of having Pettine as DC if Rex calls the plays? SOJFs in 2012: Rex is incompetent! Why is he focusing on offense when his strength is defense!!? Pettine isn't as good as Rex at play calling! SOJFs in 2013: Rex is incompetent! Why is he focusing on defense and ignoring the offense? What's the point of having Thurman as DC? :rofl: Ya'll crack me up. Same shit, different sewer. Flip flopping like there's no tomorrow. SOJFs next year: Rex is incompetent! Why is he learning more about offense? That totally means he's going to completely ignore the defense!!!! WTF!!
there are like 20-25 defensive players on this team. 5 or 6 different positions, and tons of personel groupings. there is plenty of work, teaching, and preperation going on. its no like rex spending more time their makes anyone expendable from a coaching standpoint
Too Hard on Rex The Jets were obviously not a good team last year, but the fact remains that Rex is a great coach. He took this team that was pretty flawed to the AFC championship game in his first two years (the offense stunk, the Dline couldn't generate any pressure on opposing QBs without blitzing like crazy, and the safety play and outside linebacker play was weak). It's not Rex that guaranteed Sanchez's contract; its not rex that gave Revis a clause in his contract preventing them from franchising him; its not Rex that had mediocre (at best) drafts the past few years; and it's not Rex that left the team with inadequate depth to handle the significant injuries that happened last year. Tannenbaum needed to go and is gone. The really amazing thing is that Rex managed to win 6 games without his best defensive player, without his only starting calibre wide receiver, with a screaming load of dog crap playing quarterback that found new and exciting ways to keep turning over the ball, and with one of the worst offenses I've ever seen. Now that we're actually building up the d-line to enable Rex to play all kinds of games on the defensive side of the ball, it would be a real tragedy to get rid of Rex. I'm not saying Rex hasn't made mistakes - he has and all first time head coaches do, but he's a hell of a coach and we should keep him and let him develop the defensive players that are now being put in place.
Rex Ryan is a superb defensive Coach. Good to see that he will focus on the D. I expect he will also be signing a significant contract extension before the season. I think alot of folks who have been drinking the whole "rebuilding season" kool aid are going to be pretty surprised.
Homers in 2010: Rex got us to the AFCCG in 2009. LOSS.. Homers in 2011: Rex got us to the AFCCG in 2010. LOSS.. Homers in 2012: Rex got us to the AFCCG in 2009 and 2010. LOSSES.. Homers in 2013: Rex got us to back to back AFCCG in 2009 and 2010. BACK TO BACK LOSSES. Rex is the best HC in the history of the team. Rex should be given a 5 year extension no matter what the record says. Homers next year: Rex should have gotten his extension by now. What is Idzik waiting for? Rex got us to back to back AFCCG's in 2009 and 2010. BOTH LOSSES. Middle ground is: Rex is a great DC but is still a work in progress as a HC. Does he deserve an extension so he can continue his OJT to be a true HC? 2013 will tell us one way or the other. Besides, its not like this franchise has won anything in almost 45 years anyway.
It's not that Rex should be completely hands-on with the offense, but a HEAD COACH has to oversee all parts of the football operation, not just his specialty. I'm not asking Rex to call plays but what other head coach wouldn't know when one of his players got benched (Holmes two years ago) or tell his starting QB he was benched (Sanchez last year)? These are basic things Rex doesn't need to waste time on during the week, but needs to have the final say in. Unless you have a wizard offensive coordinator and can let them be autocratic and know things are in good hands, Rex can't be abdicating his responsibility. I'm not sure Morningwheg is good enough to where Rex can let the guy completely run the show (especially when he goes on one of his 'pass the ball 70% of the time' binges) but he's better than Schotty or Sparano at least.
Dallas does that too, and probably a lot of other teams. Part of being a head coach is delegating out work. It's normal and can work just fine.
Rex would be a hindrance to the offense if he was involved. The reason he loves to run the ball every down once they have a two possesion lead is so he can run the clock and thereby increase his defensive rankings.
