I agree there really is no way to know which passes "should've" been picked off. That's why it makes no sense to even use this evaluation as an example when discussing Fitz. I wasn't saying you were calling it an accident but plenty of posters have called his play last year average or even below average. For a franchise that has seen so much bad play from out QBs the last 5 years or so , it seems a lot of fans have really gotten spoiled into thinking anyone can succeed with the offense we have here. I don't think that's such an easy thing to say
This isn't necessarily true. There are almost certainly passes which could have feasibly been intercepted and used as a guide. The passes shown are CLEARLY not interceptable. Using those passes as an example is not quite accurate considering how clear it is that they are likely to not have been used.
The website that came up with the "30 Interceptable Passes" Fitz threw said it was "interceptable". There were many other passes that they said were "interceptable" that I felt weren't. My posts were not about whether they should bring Fitz back or not, at this point I am ok if they bring him back at the right price and I am ok if they don't bring him back. I would be ok with Foles for a 7th round pick since his salary is very reasonable for this year and if he doesn't work out can be cut before his $12.25M is due next year. My previous posts were mostly about the "interceptable" passes though, not really about Fitz or Foles.
The website that came up with the stat "interceptable passes" pointed to both of the discussed throws as "interceptable". I purposely did not link the site because I don't want to give it any further exposure since I think it is a bogus stat at least based on what I saw there.
Why? Share the link. I originally had referenced this stat provided via radio not sure if it's the same source.
He beat New England and Washington. Pay the man who makes our offense not look offensive. P.S. I hope Geno gets lockjaw.
He lost to Buffalo twice, was injured against Oakland (loss) for being stupid and not sliding, he lost to Houston, he lost and played poorly against a poor Eagles team and he played poorly in the win against Dallas. He has never proven capable of leading a team into the playoffs. No reason to think with a slightly weaker roster and tougher schedule on paper that he can do it this year. And on topic there is no need for Foles.
Thats weird. I remember seeing other players wearing Jets uniforms on the field during those games. I must've forgot that Fitz fumbled on a kickoff vs Buffalo , let Darren Sproles run right through him , got burned by Watkins and Hopkins and couldn't put enough pressure on Sam Bradford and TJ Yates. Fitz was just everywhere last season!
Fitz threw 11 interceptions in just the 6 games he mentioned and that includes the Oakland game in which he played only 3 minutes before stupidly not sliding.. So basically 11 INTs in 5 games. The things you mention probably don't even matter if he tosses half that amount in those games. -- at the midway point of the season benching him wasn't outside the realm of possibility. He had a nice run to finish the season but lets be honest (home Miami, "road game" vs. Giants, home Tennessee, @ Dallas, home NE). Isn't exactly a gauntlet. 4 out of the 5 teams got top 10 draft picks after the year. The guy has never made the playoffs for a reason. I hope we can bring him back on the cheap but I'm not issuing nightly prayers that he comes back and I would be very surprised if he starts all of 2016 anyway.
All of those games the team was in a hole early. He wasnt the reason we lost those games , not the only reason atleast. To single him out for those losses is unfair , the same way its not fair to single him out for the 5 straight wins we had after that stretch. Other players contributed in big ways whether positive or negative. He is what he is , Im not saying anything different. But if he isnt starting for us Week 1 we might as well just look ahead to 2017.
I think we are looking ahead to 2017 anyway, Fitz or not. You want to downplay the effects he had on wins and losses and then tell us that he will be the difference between a lost season and a competitive season. Something's not right there.
I dont know , with Fitz I would look at it as one final attempt to make a run at it. Maybe it blows up in our faces , maybe not , but to have a pretty talented offense and defense around a QB like Geno or Petty is just a waste IMO. With Fitz we're probably an 8 win team that has a shot to win 10 games with a little bit of luck. If this year is just "throwaway" then there was really zero reason to sign Forte and also no reason to not try to trade Marshall. At the end of the day I still fully expect Fitz to be our starter this year.
He was a huge reason we were trailed, and we' lost every game we trailed until Jacksonville even if were a point or so. Single reason no, but a large reason none the less. Hes just not a good qb and im sorry hes not better than geno. Im not saying geno is good by any stretch im saying theyre both that bad. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
He'll always be looked at as "the reason" because he's the QB. And thats crazy. You must not have watched the previous 2 seasons though if you think Geno and Fitz are equals. Fitz is light years ahead of Geno in terms of being an NFL QB. If fans want Geno cause he costs 1 million compared to the 12-15 that Fitz would cost , then thats fine. But to say that they are on equal footing as players is crazy. And we were down Week 1 against Cleveland and won so I dont get that Jacksonville statement.
I really don't think it's fair to judge him on just the bad games. 11 INTs in 5 games, sure, but just 4 INTS in the remaining 10 games. It's really 15 INTS in 15 games.
We never trailed that game buddy. Ive been watching fitz and hes not any further than geno. He had about 30 interceptable passes that if defenders could catch would have been picks. Hes got a higher interception rate than even jay cutler. In fact its like the highest of all qbs whove throw 2000 or more passes. He lauded as being good presnap but hes terrible. He misreads plays all the time and leaves guys wide open while making terrible throws that are both inaccurate and into covered recievers. All of which geno does, so how are they different. In fact he had a better season under bill obrien and still wasnt effective. Only this franchise would worship a bad qb as a franchise savior. He was on a loaded team. Theres no reason any qb shouldnt be successful here. Thats a fact. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Oh wait youre correct we did trail... Whos fault was that again? His he fumbled on 3rd down after tossing a stupid pick that Marshall bailed him out of. We won that game inspite of him. So...... Yeah Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Yeah that actually happened AFTER we we're already down 7-0. Anything else you'd like to be wrong on?
