Glad you joined the board. Not enough football savvy fans on here. I bet you don't let Sbs, TDs, or any other meaningless stats get in the way of your arguments either....
Brady is a great QB. BillyBelli is a great coach. They owned us a month ago. Now we get to pay them back.
Exactly, which is why it wasn't the giant cheat that most here wish it was. They took the film and someone during the next few weeks would match it up with the defensive alignments. This was to track a teams defensive tendencies, and I'm sure, if they were dumb enough not to change signals.... But every team had someone trying to figure out the signals. It's not against the rules. It wasn't used during that game. It would be impossible for them to match that stuff up in a ten minute halftime. Besides, even Walsh, who wanted to take the pats down badly, even admitted he would never turn his camera in until after the game was over. Didn't mean to even respond, because I know it falls on mostly deaf ears, but since somone brought it back up I needed to get that off my chest.
More like interesting deflection... I mean, c'mon.. you couldn't have been the only ones cheating, right? hmy: :rofl:
REX RYAN BETTER FIX THIS OR NYJ WILL LOSE AGAIN BY 40+ POINTS February 6th 2005 Superbowl XXXIX: New England Cheaters vs. Philadelphia Eagles. Final Outcome: New England 24, Philadelphia 21. Eagles now suspicious about title loss to Pats New England always had answers for blitzes during 2005 Super BowlPHILADELPHIA - Sheldon Brown and the Eagles hoped a blitz would rattle Tom Brady.One problem: Every time the Eagles rushed Brady in the Super Bowl, the Patriots nullified the defensive attack with screen passes. Lots of them. On almost every play defensive coordinator Jim Johnson called for a blitz, the Patriots used the short pass to confuse the Eagles. After the Patriots beat the Eagles 24-21 in 2005 to win the Lombardi Trophy, Brown thought the Patriots beat them with nothing but sharp offensive playcalling. Now, he’s not so sure. With spying accusations leveled this week against the Patriots, some of the Eagles left from the NFC title team are wondering if New England used bootleg film to their advantage in the Super Bowl.“Do I think about it? Mmm hmmm,” said Brown, their starting cornerback. “It’s crazy. I just don’t know how far back it goes. Something’s not right about that.” Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins found the accusations troublesome. “Now there’s always going to be questions about the situation,” Dawkins said Thursday. “Was it great adjustments at halftime or what?” Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward said this week that he suspected the Patriots had some type of inside information on the Steelers before at least one of the teams’ two AFC championship game matchups since the 2001 season. While Ward said the Patriots knew a lot of Pittsburgh’s calls, none of the Eagles could offer any type of solid proof of any shenanigans. “For me to think back two years ago about something they may or may not have done, it’s not worth my time,” running back Brian Westbrook said. New England beat the New York Jets in last Sunday’s season opener in which an on-field video camera focusing on Jets coaches was confiscated from a Patriots employee. On Thursday, New England coach Bill Belichick was fined the NFL maximum of $500,000 and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000. The commissioner also ordered the team to give up next year’s first-round draft choice if it reaches the playoffs and second- and third-round picks if it doesn’t.“I would like to think it’s just one team doing it, but it doesn’t shock me that it happened,” Dawkins said. Some Eagles said occasional signal-stealing is an accepted part of the game. But they believe what the Patriots are accused of doing crosses the football morality line because it threatens the integrity of the game. “It’s different if you’re talking about recording it,” Dawkins said. “What can you do if you try to signal a play in?” Eagles coach Andy Reid steered away from questions about the alleged cheating other than to say he has no doubts New England’s victory was legitimate. “That’s something Bill and the Patriots are working through,” Reid said. Brown said he noticed a difference in New England’s playcalling in the second quarter. After the Patriots gained only 45 yards in the first quarter, they had 286 over the next three. Brady hit running back Corey Dillon and gained 29 total yards on a pair of screens to open New England’s first full drive of the second quarter. They didn’t score on that drive, but did on four of the next five drives. The Patriots went to the screen pass again on the decisive drive early in the fourth quarter, this time with Brady connecting with Kevin Faulk on two passes for 27 yards. “I was like, ’Man, I never saw that many screens,” Brown said. Brown wonders if it was normal playcalling from a team good enough to win three Super Bowls in four seasons, a Patriots team that used a strong scouting report to gain a fair edge, or was somebody picking up the Eagles defensive calls from a sideline camera that deprived them of a fair shot? “I think they should forfeit, man,” said punt returner Reno Mahe, smiling. “We won the Super Bowl. I think we should get it. I’m going to go trade my NFC championship ring for a Super Bowl ring.” The headline over a picture of Belichick on the back page of Thursday’s Philadelphia Daily News might have said it all: “Counterfeit RING: Spy Scandal Helps Explain Birds’ Super Bowl Loss.” Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here Hey, maybe the illicit tape would show once and for all if Donovan McNabb really did get sick in the huddle late in the game. Remember, that was Philadelphia’s first excuse for losing. McNabb — who insisted the Eagles would never stoop to those kind of tactics — was surprised to hear the allegations against the Patriots. But he said the suspicions might be overblown. “One thing people are forgetting is that even if you have the answers to the test, you still have to take the test,” he said. “If they have an idea of what’s coming, those guys still have to be able to execute the play.” That doesn’t mean McNabb won’t clear some space in his jewelry box. For a city that last saw a pro team win a championship nearly 25 years ago, the Eagles might accept a retroactive one. “Maybe we’ll get our ring back,” said a chuckling McNabb. “Maybe we’ll get the real one.” Hey, maybe the illicit tape would show once and for all if Donovan McNabb really did get sick in the huddle late in the game. Remember, that was Philadelphia’s first excuse for losing. McNabb — who insisted the Eagles would never stoop to those kind of tactics — was surprised to hear the allegations against the Patriots. But he said the suspicions might be overblown. “One thing people are forgetting is that even if you have the answers to the test, you still have to take the test,” he said. “If they have an idea of what’s coming, those guys still have to be able to execute the play.” That doesn’t mean McNabb won’t clear some space in his jewelry box. For a city that last saw a pro team win a championship nearly 25 years ago, the Eagles might accept a retroactive one. “Maybe we’ll get our ring back,” said a chuckling McNabb. “Maybe we’ll get the real one.”
Way to pick out the only part of the post that you wanted to read. It's a legit question for anyone who actually understands the game, coaching "fraternities," and how all that shit works. Besides, I acknowledged, before the question, that there was obviously some benefit to filming or the Patriots wouldn't have bothered. I'm not deflecting anything. That's a "you" problem, comprehension-wise. Let me know if you want to have a legit discussion or if you'd rather keep it up with the lightweight, candy-ass BS. :up:
