New York Jets: The Most Overrated Defense In The NFL

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  1. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    The Jets d showed some flashes last year , so I would tend to disagree with the article. Now that the Jets have a defensive minded coach and we have stocked the shelves with some quality pick ups and some good rotation guy's I dont know how he could come to that conclusion.
     
  2. Salz

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    feelthepain is a complete troll. Whenever one of the forum members rips apart the bleacher report author's points in his article, ftp responds with attacks on the Jets and its fans. things like "Jets fans think everybody on their team is amazing" and "yeah your defense sure was good last year!". He's not actually reading what we have to say. He will always be on the attack. Not worth our time. The author of the bleacher report article is a bitter Ravens fan. He has read that his old DC is trying to build the Jets into a powerhouse defense and this makes him mad. So without really knowing the facts, he bashed the Jets defense. There isn't necessarily something wrong with a pre-conceived conclusion, but the points he brings up to back up the said conclusion are terrible.
     
  3. Salz

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    Look at his main 'points':

    1) The Jets D is overrated because Douglas is starting for them at DE. Douglas being a backup on the Ravens -> Douglas now starting on the Jets means that he's not that good, and neither is the Jets D. Great logic there!


    2) Kris Jenkins is merely a solid pro. He's downplaying Jenkins' all pro ability and production from last year to make the Jets defense appear to be worse and help out his argument. POOR.

    3) Bart Scott was the third best linebacker on the Ravens. First of all, that's debatable. Second of all, even if it is true, who cares? That doesn't mean he's not very good. During the Giants Super Bowl season, Justin Tuck may have been the Giants third best DE. Who wouldn't want him starting on their team? He thrived in Rex Ryan's system last year, and should thrive in it this year.

    4) Kerry Rhodes is overrated. Really? Kerry Rhodes has only been in the league for 4 years, and last year was his only disappointing one. With a similar skillset to Ed Reed, there's a reason we are excited about his potential in Rex Ryan's system. Kerry Rhodes also arguably outplayed Reed in 2006, when Reed made the Pro Bowl all over him.

    5) He neglects to mention our acquisition of Lito Shephard. FTP defends it by saying that's because Lito never plays on the field. Come on, do you really believe that? He forgot we acquired him. That's why he focused so much on Lowery. Even if Lito gets injured a lot, he's healthy right now and going into the season as the starting CB opposite Revis. Also, Revis' presence shouldn't be understated. He's a Top 3 CB in this league and changes the complexion of the D entirely.

    6) The Jets LB corps is above average. That's an understatement. As the Author rightly puts, David Harris is a young and rising LB in this league. Bart Scott, though he may have been the "third best LB on the Ravens" is very good. Calvin Pace is good too. He showed good pressure to the QB ability and I can only imagine how good he can be under Rex. Bryan Thomas is not great, but he's solid. Gholston could be very good. If so, our LB Corps will be fantastic. Right now it's good, at the worst.

    In summary, the author was grasping for straws to make the Jets D look bad. He was looking at deceiving stats and going by the word of mouth of NFL experts. I can't blame him for doing that, though, since most fans don't watch all 16 games every week and have to go by the experts. It isn't like baseball, where you can judge players by their stats. However, he's not an expert, and shouldn't write like he's so knowledgeable. We Jets fans were right to pick apart this guys argument. We didn't do so because we get upset when people trash the Jets because of our expectations; we did so because the article was elementary. It could have been written by a 14 year old who just read a John Clayton article. FTP is just looking for trouble.
     
  4. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Aaron Smith is pittsburghs best D lineman. He hasd 5 sacks last season. They do matter some, but are not thew focus of the line in the 34 as they are with 43 ends and tackles. 43 Ends and Tackles are paid to penetrate the oline and make plays. 34 ends are there to create lanes for the linebackers make plays. Thats why most good 34 defenses are always led by a linebacker in sacks, including your Phins, pittsburgh, and baltimore last year.

    Kris Jenkins got huge praise for a 34 NT last year with how he helped turn around the Jets run D. His stat lines are nothign to look at though, but thats the rub. If your judging players solely on stat lines, or 40 times, or any other number with out actually watching them play make and understatding what job they are supposed to be doing, then your not a very bright football fan. That does not preclude you from having an opinion, but makes it worht about as much as the paper I wipe my asss with.
     
  5. feelthepain

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    Right, I should just stop posting cause the only people who understand the game of football are Jet fans.
     
  6. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Nope, there are several knowledgeable Giants, Pats, Steelers, and other such fans around. Its just that your not.
     
  7. rmagedon

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    Pretty much hit the nail on the head there.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    No, you should not stop posting because it's extremely entertaining to watch you fail miserably in every thread. It's easy to think that all Dolphin fans are as terrible at this as you are, and the sheer number of Fail posts you pepper the Jets forum with, it becomes easier. Keep on Failing, good buddy.
     
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    Believe it or not, I could have sworn that I saw some intelligent Bills fans in the NFL forum the other day.
     
  10. Harpua

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    Don't worry, they will follow the typicial bills line. Start out great and then cool of when it really maters OR Just when you think they are about as good as it gets they'll fuck it up badly.

    ....wait am I talk about the bills or thier fans. Dammit now I'm confused

    :grin:
     
  11. Quack

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    People look at me funny when I say that the late 80s/early 90s Bills are the best dynasty in the history of the NFL. No one else has ever been that dominant of the league for a sustained period of time. They didn't exactly choke in their superbowl losses, either, their opponents just had huge holy crap what the hell amazing performances.
     
  12. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    They were a great team, but faild badly when it counted. Had they one even one SB they would be remembeerd as a great team. As is, they will be remembered as they best team in a weak AFC at the time. Sad but true.
     

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