He was a better passer as a raw rookie in terms of accuracy. He's aiming everything now and is routinely inaccurate in the process. We forget all the intentional throwaways on his part last year. He had a bunch of those, more than you'd like, and they affected his completion percentage a lot. He threw a bunch of picks last year (21 in 443 throws) and that affected his completion percentage negatively also. It was a lot of incompletes often on throws that shouldn't have been made. He was taking big hits every game waiting to make the throws also. This year he's throwing fewer picks (12 in 315 throws) and he's almost never throwing the ball away and the problem is he's not completing enough passes up the field either. He's avoiding the big hits for the most part as well, finding a way to get down without getting creamed in the process. He's going out of his way not to turn the ball over and to make only safe throws but the downside is that he's not making enough good throws in the process. His yards per pass attempt is way down from 6.88 to 6.21. Why? Because he's not hitting the guys down field routinely when he does make a pass. 2% more completions this year and 10% fewer yards off each attempt.
He stopped running a lot too. How many rushing TD's did Geno have last year versus this year? The big redzone threat from Geno last year was his QB draw and he scored a bunch on it. This year he fumbled at the goal line or chucked picks into the endzone.
Big fumble early on at the goal line against the Raiders. First appearances tend to settle in and Geno was very erratic against the Raiders. He also had a pass intercepted right off the bat. This offense left 7 to 10 points on the field EVERY week up until SD. It was after SD that Geno should have been replaced. That's when it became absolutely clear that the Jets weren't going anywhere this year with him at QB. With a decent QB on the field and the breaks as they happened the Jets are 4-0 going into SD, not 1-3 and stumbling. The thing about Geno and the Jets is that QB is a completely different position than any other position on the field. It's a position where if you're not the solution you're part of the problem. It's all nice and good to see flashes here and there and the occasional good drive but if that's all you're seeing it's time to ring the gong and move on. 32 starting NFL QB jobs in the world. The teams that are sticking with the below average performers are by and large the bad teams. The Jets certainly are this year and mostly for that reason.
52 turnovers in 2 years is game managing? Sanchez was given the ROLE of a game manager, but he wasn't very good at it. The only difference you identified between sanchez and geno as game managers is that mark had a better run game and defense (his first 3 years)
What two years are U talking about? Mark's first two years 33 interceptions 13 fumbles in 31 games played. If U compare the stats Geno is aiming to surpass every crappy record Mark holds. I don't want either of the QB's on my Jets. And I dare say Sanchez had the crappier OC's (imo). And Geno's run game isn't bad. What Mark did have was a better corp or receivers and better D system. Mark didn't just lock onto the one receiver Geno seems to do it far too often. All in all ( imo ) Mark is the better game manager. If by some chance Geno did turn it around (not 3 years from now) I would be ecstatic and happy to eat crow. I don't think it will happen here in NY.
He just seems to lack touch. He has arm strength and zip on the ball. Throws right better than to the left. But he cannot drop the soft pass into a spot. And we know he stinks long. Oh well. I was hoping he would work out.
-Its not just the front 7 of the Bills defense that is great, it is the entire defense including the secondary. -No one would care if Schwartz left, the players are what makes the defense. There are stars all over the field and depth that could start on other teams. We've had 2 different coordinators in 2 years and it hasnt made a difference. I'm pretty sure they could hire me next and we'd still be top 10. Its like worrying every time someone hires Peyton Manning's OC away. -Love the culture change Marrone has brought to the entire team, and the new level of expectation and accountability. He doesn't really seem like an x's and o's type of guy, but is a perfect leader that overseas quality coordinators and manages the bigger picture of the team. We need help on offense. -As for Geno, I actually think he can play in this league and just needs to get away from that New York media. My God is that a horrific market to play and struggle in.
Geno hasn't been good this year, there's no denying that. But before this organization can even think about starting over, they need to address the line. The Jets can even get away with not taking a receiver in the draft - though if Cooper is on the board that would be a no brainer, maybe even Kevin White - if they use their first two picks on starting linemen. Brian Winters played a huge part in losing the Green Bay game when he let Geno get creamed mid throw on what would have likely been a touchdown pass. Feels like every other play Geno is running for his life. On the safety against Tennessee he didn't have time to blink. And some guys on here think Mariota would do better? Right. What I think needs to happen is the front office signs a free agent qb, whoever that would be, or draft a guy in round 3 or 4 to actually COMPETE with Geno. Don't go in knowing you're going to start Geno, like they did the last two years. Especially this year with the farce of a competition between him and Vick. If it's close at the end of the summer, start Geno with an exponentially short leash. He'll have a better line, a markedly improved receiving corps now that Harvin is in the mix and will have had a year to generate chemistry and Amaro is looking like a legit receiving threat. If the line can give him time to breathe, Decker, Harvin, Amaro, Kerley, and potentially Cooper or White isn't too shabby of a receiving corps. Essentially, the important thing for next year is that there is a completely fair competition to start at quarterback. Give Geno and mystery QB 50% of the reps in training camp and preseason. As bad as Geno's been, he's shown enough flashes of good to greatness that it's too early to give up on him ever being a starting quarterback.
Not to worry if we keep starting Geno he will be right there with him after four years. I compared Mark's first two years with Geno's (yet to finish 2 years). That would be the fair comparison, Right?
Actually a quarterback's first 2 years should probably be his worst, you know unlike in New York, most of them develop instead of regressing
Right you are. But where does that leave Geno? He has shown little to no improvement at all. Do U think he'll ever develope into a viable NFL QB? Or will he continue the one up and two backward growth he has shown.
yeah let's look at the game when he threw 3 picks in three possessions and lets take back the last pick six and the last game..... The issue here is you can't take it back he sucks. He cant take care of the ball so I doubt he would make a good back up. If braford is released grab him up or find another vet that can hopefully man the pot for a few yrs and look for a future qb. Dont put geno the living turn over back on the field
I can't get a read at all on Geno. He actually has a lot of talent, I just think he's not smart enough to react to the speed of an NFL game. If the perfect coach got a hold of him he might be able to be a decent starter.
Terry Bradshaw couldn't spell C-A-T if you spotted him the C and the T. Just a great old quote from Hollywood Henderson before the 78 Super Bowl. You don't have to be highly intelligent to be a good NFL QB. You just have to be able to get rid of the ball in a hurry most of the time and not throw it to the wrong people.
