Need new desperation play; lateral dangerous

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  1. CatoTheElder

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    I don't remember seeing "Ca-ching" in a dictionary.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    You're going to get an interception much more easily on a hail mary pass, then a lateral play. You can't take players off the field because it's dangerous. If that were the case, 3rd string quarterbacks would be the only ones sneaking it.
     
  3. themasochist

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    Actually, I'm fairly certain that Graham is capable of drop kicking field goals with reasonable accuracy. What would be a cool desperation play, (assuming we need at least 3 points) would be to line him up at WR. Pass to him downfield and let him try a quick dropkick field goal.

    This could only be tried with little to no time left on the clock.
     
  4. themasochist

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    The lateral play was an excellent choice. It was actually designed to be a standard hook and ladder to set Brad Smith free, but he quickly ran into traffic and smartly laterelled the ball out.
     
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    ...if we had a non-risky sure-fire 70 yard play, why wouldn't we run it every single time? Did you people honestly expect to win that game when we got in that situation?
     
  6. themasochist

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    For all intensive purposes, the game was over when we muffed that kick. Chad had enough time working from his own 35. But not the 3 yd line.
     
  7. Learn To Swim

    Learn To Swim 2008 Nightowltom "Best Non-Jets Poster" Award Winn

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    Yeah, but I'm pretty sure "of" is in there.
     
  8. ScotsJet

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    "intensive purposes"? What's that? Do you mean "intents and purposes"?
     
  9. GSourJr

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    My main point was that putting Penny out on the field was a mistake, any one of 11 Colts could've taken a run at him and put him out for the season.

    The other point was not to try and reach the end zone with a Ramsey hail mary, but FG range. Obviously, that has to be tried with more than 15 seconds on the clock.

    However, given the fact that the lateral play did advance the ball to the Colts 27 yard line at one point, maybe the only thing the Jets should have done was run the play on 1st down when they would've had more time to stop the clock and try a kick.

    Or maybe the friggin defense could make a play once at the end of a game this season!!!!
     
  10. Pennythetowelboy

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    the play is exciting and while it is a low percentage play it gives up the best chance to win rather then two bombs that would most likely get picked off
     
  11. Pennythetowelboy

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    thats what i was thinking cause if they could get to the 35/40 yard line with at least 2 seconds then we could try a kick
     
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    Yeah, but I'm pretty sure puerto-rico is one word.
     
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  14. Cakes

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    The Jets fumbled the ball multiple times on the play. The refs should have thrown a flag. After the two-minute warning, for any fumble that occurs during a down, the fumbled ball may only be advanced by the offensive player who fumbled the ball, or any member of the defensive team. It's the Holy Roller Rule.
     
  15. IIMeanDeanII

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    I think it is OK to be dangerous when your back is completely pressed against the wall, and you have to do everything you can to fight your way out. Makes sense to me. I think that they could get more creative with this type of play though. I was sitting here visualizing that play, and I thought of my own....

    Have B.Smith at QB. J. Cotchery at left wideout. Coles at right wideout. CP at running back. Hike the ball throw it to Coles running an IN to the middle of the field, Coles immidately throws it back to CP, then CP hits Cothcery on a streak towards the end zone.

    Creative thoughts, it would never work I am sure, but it is fun to think about things like that. Atleast for me, but I always wondered if anyone else thought of trickery plays like this. Dont laugh to hard. :)
     
  16. Cakes

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    I'm not laughing at you, first of all.

    However, the play you describe would be illegal if Coles caught the initial pass beyond the line of scrimmage.

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    The Saints pulled off this type of play in 2003 to pull to 20-19 against the Jaguars. Then John Carney missed the XP.
     
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  17. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Yes I saw exactly what you saw - everyone should look at this replay, the FIRST time Coles has the ball, before any fumbles and before Brad Smith went down with it. He has a clear path to the endzone with great blocks setup. I can only think of 2 things.

    1) He didn't want to be the guy getting tackled to end the game and to appear selfish trying to do it all himself.
    2) The pitch he made was to Pennington. Brad Smith was on the other side of the field. It's possible that they've practiced this play with a QB on each side and specific blocking patterns and "routes" for people to run that would ultimately lead to a wide open lane to the endzone.

    He surely had a direct path to the EZ Dev.
     
  18. IIMeanDeanII

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    I have actually never seen anything remotely like this, ever. I really did'nt know how the rule would be for this, since I have never seen such a thing. It makes sense though, shame...
     
  19. Cakes

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    The Chiefs at Jets game in 1988 ended in similar fashion. There were more laterals in that one, but the Jets didn't get as far down the field.

    Also, there was the Cal-Stanford play.

    The Alamo Bowl of last season between Michigan and Nebraska ended on a similar play. (Someone can correct me if it wasn't the Alamo Bowl, but I do have the correct teams.)
     
  20. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    December 20, 2003
    Saints at Jaguars

    final play of game

    :)06) (Shotgun) A.Brooks pass to D.Stallworth to JAX 33 for 42 yards. Lateral to M.Lewis to JAX 26 for 7 yards. Lateral to D.McAllister to JAX 21 for 5 yards. Lateral to J.Pathon for 21 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Play Challenged by Review Assistant and Upheld.

    J. Carney extra point no good.

    New Orleans 19, Jacksonville 20.

    When Carney missed the XP the Saints were eliminated from playoff contention.
     

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