"One source said that while the report will cite problems "top to bottom," it also will expose "deep problems, the number of players, high-level MVPs and All-Stars," as well as clubhouse personnel who allowed steroids and other banned substances in clubhouses or knew about it and didn't say anything." Ought to be an exciting day. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7556534
I don't really see the point of making this report public. Unless MLB is going to suspend every name connected with this list I just dont see the point. All it does is shame the game even more than it already is and prevents them from moving on from the steroid age. We all know by now that the percentage of users over the years is extremely high, I dont care about the names, I just assume everyone has used.
Lets see--Bonds, Clemens, Boone, ,Pujols and Todd Hundley(if they deem him worthy of even caring about) are the names I would all but guarantee be on that list.
The 70 names is probably going to be the name of every major league team and each of their affiliates, as every player to play pro baseball for the last 15 years will damned by conclusive evidence and the 70 teams named will save a lot of paper.
So, looking over the list of MVPs in the last 6 years you have Arod, Morneau, Guerrero and Tejada in the AL. Rollins, Howard, Pujols and Bonds in the NL. I think Tejada, Pujols and obviously Bonds will be on the list. Howard, Arod and Guerrero could be but probably not.
Seriously, I pray that ARod is not on that list. Not even because he's a Yankee. Even if he had gone elsewhere I would have the same hope. To me, he's a savior to the game. The one guy who has a legit shot at truly erasing Bonds' name from the books. I have to agree with Vision. What is the point of releasing the list at this point? All it's going to do is scar a game that was finally coming back to the fore. As I wrote yesterday, good bye baseball.
Because if they didn't release it it would be considered the biggest cover up in sports history. Once they undertook this investigation it was a given that there would be a list and that it would be released. Actually, the fact that it has so many names is probably better. The only problem with that, as one writer wrote today, this pretty much makes Bonds the big winner in this whole thing. He can now claim he didn't do anything everybody else wasn't doing and he had no choice but to do it so he could stay competitive with the pitchers who were doing it too. That's the shame of it all.
No he didn't. He said he has to be careful because for all he knows there was something in the protein shakes he drank in the DR. He never once said he "took something". And his numbers have improved every year since testing started. I'd be SHOCKED if he was on the list. Same for Manny. Schilling too a lesser extent, only because he's so vocal about it. Varitek would be mildly surprising just because of his clean cut image, but I can kind of see it.
Varitek = "clean cut"? Wow, and people say Yankees fans are homers. Seriously man, if you honestly believe that your team has a clean nose, regardless of whether any Red Sox names get dropped this afternoon, you're delusional. EDIT: BTW, you know that they haven't been able to test for HGH right? Just because Papi hasn't tested positive doesn't mean he isn't (or at least wasn't) doing it. It's more than a little shocking the turn his career took when he put a B on his cap.
ESPN BREAKING NEWS: Roger clemens supposedly was supplied steroids... being reported on Mike and Mike.
BREAKING NEWS: Clemens will be named in the report. On Mike and Mike they just had something from a Yankee trainer who told Mitchell that Clemens received steroids while a member of the Yankees.
Surprise, surprise I always knew he was on the juice, pitchers get too much of a pass for this type of thing
Yes, clean cut. When the front office wanted to change the "idiot" image of Johnny Damon (clearly on steroids while with the Sox), they let players like him and Millar go and made Varitek the captain. He's one of the most professional players around. I didn't say that no Sox player has used anything, just the ones you named seem unlikely. Manny has hit since he was in high school. Schilling's a big fat mess, and so is Ortiz. I'm positive that Kapler, Damon, and Garciaparra used. Probably Nixon. Maybe Timlin, and probably others. But the ones you named would surprise me. As for Ortiz, he hit 20 homers his last year in Minnesota, and 18 in 89 games the year before. Then he hit 31, 41, 47, 54, 35 with Boston. He battled knee problems with Minnesota partly due to the turf, and played only two full seasons. He was only 26 when he left Minnesota. I think his improvement has more to do with two things: natural improvement as he entered his prime, and having Manny behind him in the lineup. He didn't suddenly explode from 10 to 50 HR.
Along with while he's with the Blue Jays, guess they'll make him have a Sox cap on when he gets in the HoF as that was the 'roid free Clemens era.:grin:
Vision, are you a Mets fan? If so your entire team is probably on the list as it was your waterboy that was providing the stuff to everybody that appears on the list.
"Also, The Bergen (N.J.) Record, citing a baseball industry official, says "several" prominent Yankees will be named. The paper said the source spoke to a third party who had seen the final report. "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx," the paper quoted the source as saying." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153129 Well, the no brainers are Sheffield and Giambi, now Clemens. I wonder who else, Jeter?...lol...that would be funny.
Yes I'm a Mets fan, a Mets fan that was completely joking with that comment. I just got done saying that I assume everyone in baseball has used some sort of performance enhancing drug at some point. I don't care about the list, I dont care about the names on the list and I fully expect there to be plenty of Mets on the list. I did get a certain level of satisfaction though with Clemens on the list, not that it was any surprise considering his very public roid rage incident on the main stage of the WS.
