A better test of speed would be running on grass, in pads, with a helmet bouncing around in your face, running as fast as you can and STILL catch a 60yd bomb over your shoulder after staying out all night getting down in the hood with your homies spraying you with champane and blowing cronic in your face while strippers throw breast implants at you. anything short of this would not be a true test for an nfl receiver.
:up: That is a great post. You should be allowed to put that cottage cheese butt in your avatar again for that post.
Just to solidify the an earlier point: "The NFL’s all-time leading rusher, Emmitt Smith, ran a 4.6 in the 40-yard dash. The NFL’s all-time leading receiver, Jerry Rice, ran 4.71." http://www.star-telegram.com/329/story/1199736.html
Im not sure a 40 time is really that important in a #1 receiver. In fact, i am not sure if speed is truly a prerequisite in #1 WR. Consider Anquan Boldin, he has below average top end speed but is widely considered to be a #1 WR in this league.
Too funny! I remember on older versions of Madden getting caught from behind when playing with someone like Randy Moss and catching the ball behind the DBs. I know I may have been playing on All Pro or whatever, but I'd scan the defensive players on the other team, see no one faster than a 98 or whatever Moss was, get immensely pissed, curse wildly, and then whip the controller. Good stuff.
There is no such thing as a #1 receiver. Receivers are creatures of the teams and offenses they play for. A great receiver can put up mediocre numbers on a bad team or a team that emphasized the run or a team with no QB. A mediocre receiver can put up gaudy numbers in a pass happy offense. Plus, few positions are as unpredictable in the draft as WR. This is just a silly discussion.
Just like the awesome RB with a terrible line or a QB with shitty receivers... or the LBs with awful DLs or CBs with no pass rush???????? i get your point, but there are such things as guys who are elite, and then everyone else.
Marques Colston is not a guy with blazing speed. If 40 times was be all end all type of stat for WR, Colston doesn't belong in the NFL.
Your number one WR doesnt have to have 4.3 or 4.4 speed. A number one receiver just has to be consistant and catch 7-8 balls a game (TO, Chad Johnson, etc). HOWEVER, you definitely do need a guy in your top 2 or 3 WRs that can stretch the field 3 or 4 times a game. But I'm not a fan of the pure speed #1 WRs like Lee Evans or Santana Moss. They only make a big impact on 1 or 2 plays a game if that, compared to a possession type guy who can consistantly help the team.
I want a guy who can run the deep ball with some success but more importantly make the catch on the 3rd and 12 and get 14 yards
many NFL teams/scouts use 4.5 as the line in the sand...... if a guy, almost naked, indoors, no wind, etc etc cannot break 4.5 than he is more than likely NOT #1 NFL material - and is ranked accordingly. of course there are other factors already mentioned but that is the general feel. jil
Like many of the posters here, I have really high hopes for David Clowney. I go to Virginia Tech (Clowney was a Hokie) and he was a great WR here. He has shown nothing but good things when he had an opportunity to play last season. Anyway, Clowney ran a 4.37 I believe at his Combine. I know that a 40 time isn't everything, but he also looks fast on the field. I am very interested in seeing how he does when he gets more playing time next season.
That may well be, but this ignores that what would best balance what the Jets already have at wideout is a deep threat. It was noted yesterday that is one of the reasons why Boldin would not necessarily be the best fit for the Jets, a point I agree with.
I'd argue a much better measure for WRs and RBs coming in is the 3 cone drill. I was glad they added that to the combine in recent years. All the combine stuff is still so overrated when you consider the impact it has, but that's at least a drill that lets you see quickness in a slightly more realistic setting.
