Look at it this way, I'm a solicitor - if I got arrested and charged for the offence Miller committed I would be struck off and lose my job. As a result of my being aware of this I avoid trouble and when I go out I go out to places where fighting doesn't happen and socialise with people who don't fight or act aggressively. If I can do it to preserve a career where I am paid peanuts and work my ass off every day, how can Miller not do it to preserve a career where he will earn hundreds of thousands a year? It's a question of how much it matters - putting football first is a core Jet value, apparently. It's time for Mangini to show just how far he'll go to practice what he preaches. It's a real test for him now, if he gets it wrong he could easily lose the team.
It's a new policy. The policy is not if you get arrested 10 times you get a season long suspension, if you get arrested 8 times you get an 8 game suspension, etc. That just happens to be what happened to the first people suspended under the policy. I don't think anybody believes that NFL players have multiple free arrests at this point before the policy kicks in. Far from it. One legitimate arrest and you are suspended, with the duration of suspension tracking the seriousness of the offense and the prior offenses if they exist. The policy is: "The standard of socially responsible conduct for NFL employees will be higher. Club and league employees will be held to a higher standard than players. Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL will be subject to discipline, even if not criminal in nature. Discipline for individuals that violate the policy will include larger fines and longer suspensions." Note also that Goodell will have to be tough with Miller because Goodell's history is with the Jets. He can't go easy on Miller without other players and teams crying foul.
The Jets have got to cut him. -First and foremost, it would be a great statement move going into training camp. This kind of thing won't be tolerated, and football comes first. While Miller has been a turd at the cornerback position, he does have Pro Bowl attached to his name. -Second, it's a no-brainer. As was mentioned earlier, the Jets traded up to get a first round corner. Last year, David Barrett, Hank Poteat, Andre Dyson, and even Drew Coleman started ahead of Miller. It's not as if his presence on the field had a profound influence on the offenses approach. -Third, it's a glaring indictment of Miller. A top athletic talent like Miller who has done nothing for two years (returning kicks is not why we drafted him) should be doing everything in his power to prepare himself for the season. Miller is out punching girls at the bar. -Finally, there's a pattern here. Every time this guy is on the field it's a personal foul waiting to happen. That, coupled with his off-field behavior(including his previous transgressions) shows me that this guy has no view of the big picture. He is an immensely talented athlete but he certainly doesn't have the blinders a guy of his disposition needs to be successful. Leon Washington can return kicks, Brad Smith can return kicks, Chansi Stuckey can return kicks. Kick returner is a position that the Jets in particular have shown an ability to fill rather seamlessly over the last few years. Ideally, you'd think that by this time, Miller's contributions at the cornerback position would have lead the Jets to take him out of that role. That hasn't been the case, so you have to call this what it is. The Jets have to decide whether or not it's worth their while to keep an overpaid kick returner and fifth cornerback who has shown a predilection for actions embarrassing to the franchise. I think this should be pretty simple. -X-
http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/NewsAndEvents/PERSONAL_CONDUCT_POLICY.pdf (for Champ) Right, I agree. And Miller's problem may be that there's no precedent for an offense in this category; although, there are certainly enough incidents of barroom scrapes. Goodell may want to send strong a message with this one so that players will start doing with ScotsJet says - stay out of the places where trouble lurks. I'm betting he'll see a fine in the $25,000 range, but my own choice would be a game suspension. Particularly, for intentionally slugging a girl.
I agree 100%! He is an overpaid Kick returner who can't cover his shadow anyway. Mangini should make an example out of him.
I just can't see the team taking action to that extreme. I see a definite suspension in his future- some extra community service type work with the Jets as well, but he's a game-changing weapon on KOR, and I don't know if by inserting one of the players you mentioned that they'd have the safe effect. Alot of guys are fast, but he has speed coupled with downfield vision and nasty cuts, which have made him a premier KOR specialist. As a CB, he should never step on the field again- Revis' signing essentially drove that point home.
I know it may be one and the same, but do you think the NFL would be who suspends him (if he gets suspended) or would it be the Jets who would do it?
There are multiple potential policies in place here. We know what the NFL policy is, so that is predictable. We don't know what the Jet's internal policy is so that an unknown at the moment. You make a very good point though, that the NFL has acted in an over-arching way to enforce discipline because individual teams have been lax in doing so. I'm sure Roger Goodell would be overjoyed if teams began policing their players behaviour in a manner that forestalled the need for the NFL to take action. He'd probably be doing hand-flips and cartwheels if that happened and the punishment was appropriate to the offense.
Nothing will be done until ALL the facts are known. There are a few things called "due process of the law" and "innocent until proven guilty." Unless someone on this board was a witness to the event, any attempt to figure out what happened is idle speculation. Remember what happened with Bryan Thomas a few years back? Lets not rush to judgement on Miller too. The facts will play out in due time and I am sure the Jets will due what is necessary and appropriate. Heck even under "soft hand" Herm they suspended John Abraham a game for the DUI.
Slugging a girl, running from the police, the only thing missing was the pile of coats in the corner to hide under...
I'd prefer it be the Jets. But, despite Goodell's new "get tough" policy, the new(ish) CBA actually made it more difficult for teams to discipline players. For example:
A big problem. Don't know if I'm right here but is Miller the first NFL player to get arrested since the Pacman incident? If he is then expect the league to come down on him big time. Like Sunday said where new precedents are set its always tough on the first one caught out. I'm indifferent if he stays or goes , hes only ever going to be any good at KOR or PR. As a DB he hasn't got the intelligence needed.
Maybe the writings on the wall then. He seems to be guilty until proved innocent , good 'ole trial by national press
not to nitpick but thats AJ Nicholson. its really a shame hes becoming a conduct problem cuz this guy had alot of talent.
