its the offseason. no one has intelligence in the offseason. the "what ifs" and "let's maybes" come out to play, and none of the hypothetical situations are thought out or presented in a manner that even sounds logical.... I hate the offseason.
Don't get me wrong, I have two dogs myself and think what Vick did was dispicable. But I also feel that upon his release from prison he will have paid his debt to society and that should be the end of it. Period. There are countless ex-convicts in the NFL. What makes Vick any different? Football wise, the guy has freakish skills and his lack of character doesn't change that. True, he is not a super accurate QB nor does he need to be. He makes his living off running around behind the line of scrimmage creating broken plays which forces the secondary to shift their attention off their coverage and on to him. 9 times out of 10 this leaves somebody wide open somewhere on the field. Just search "Michael Vick Highlights" on YouTube and you'll see exactly what I mean. Those who say that they never want to see him in green and white are only kidding themselves. I think he would solve alot of our problems. You want another dynamic offensive weapon? Vick's your man. He adds a whole new dimension to an offense - he can line up in shotgun, take the snap, and be 10 yards downfield faster than you can blink. Who wouldn't want someone like that on their team? It forces D-Coordinators to stick a spy on him which will allow Keller to rip the defense to shreds. You want a QB who will be with this team for 5+ years? Vick will be a mere 29 at the start of the 2009 season. For those who say he'll be outrageously expensive, he's only going to make what the market commands for him and how many teams will realistically be inquiring about his services? Maybe 3? The lack of demand for him will make it easy to re-negotiate his bullshit contract. The only issue I see is it will be nothing short of a crap shoot as to how long it would take him to get back into football shape after being off the field for so long. Worth the risk? Given our current state of disarray at the QB position, why the hell not? As I stated above, in no way do I condone, nor make light of, his off-field conduct. But the fact is he did the crime and did the time, and upon his release maybe, just maybe, Rex Ryan and his "no bullshit" attitude could be exactly what Vick needs to get his act together. I ask each and every Jets fan to look past their personal feelings and take a good hard look at what he could bring to our offense. **The above is, of course, going on the ASSUMPTION that Roger Goodell will take NO further action as far as a suspension of Michael Vick for the 2009 NFL Season***
The fans are like pawns on a chess board. They know only what the powers that be want them to know The fans are constantly used to sway opinion. They have a mob mentality Media dictates many times who you like or dislike So I hate to say it, but Fans don't count because they can be persuaded either way. It just depends on who is in charge
Leonard Little killed a woman while driving under the influence of alcohol and only served 3 months of jail time before returning to the NFL.
I think Vick is UNDERRATED but I'd be shocked if we went after Vick strictly b/c of bad PR. He'd make us better but they want good press to keep selling PSLs and Vick would bring alot of attention but alot of negative attention.
That is the biggest travesty in the history of the league b/c not only did he kill a woman driving drunk he got arrested AGAIN for drunk driving after he killed that woman and yet he's still allowed to play in the NFL.
Just goes to show you that Justice is selective And unfortunately when people talk about punishment it also selective too
You could have Googled this for yourself, but if you really want to argue this, here's a list of some of the more recent NFL ex-convicts: Christian Peter - Convicted of rape and went on to play for the Giants, Colts, and Bears. Lawrence Phillips - Plead guilty to what was described as a "brutal" domestic abuse case and went on to play for the Rams, Dolphins, and 49ers. Leonard Little - Discussed above. Jamal Lewis - Convicted drug trafficker and suspended for a whopping 2 NFL games. Ray Lewis - Plead guilty to "obstruction of justice" charges in a double murder case. Do you own research if you are still curious about this subject - but the point was never about the number of ex-convicts in the NFL. The point is that Michael Vick should not be treated any differently than the aforementioned players in terms of a league suspension.
You made the statement, why should I do your research? You said there are countless convicts in the NFL. 2 of the players you mentioned aren't in the league anymore so they wouldn't fit in the statment you made. Phillips didn't get convicted until he was out of the league. Ray Lewis was convicted of a misdemeanor if you want to refer to him as a convict because of that go ahead. You make it sound like the league is filled with convicts, when it's not. I agree with you that Vick shouldn't be treated any different than others, but that should be in the context of the current NFL where Goodell is the commissioner. He has made it a mission to cleanup the league and Vick will certainly fall into that mission. Treating him the same way he's treated guys like Pacman isn't biased to Vick.
Fair enough. It just makes my blood boil to know that a guy like Little is still playing after murdering an innocent mother. IMO, once the league handled that situation in that manner it forever set the standard, and if I was Vick and got suspended a full season after getting out of jail, I would sue the shit out of everyone involved. Seriously. It's forever going to be a double standard after the way the Little deal went down, and it's bullshit.
It's shitty but there's a new guy running the show now. If Goodell were commissioner when the Little situation went down he'd surely have received a long suspension. Times have changed since the Little incident, I doubt a law suit would be successful. FTR I hate Goodell, but it is what it is.
Lewis was charged with conspiring to possess with the intent to distribute. The "conspiring" in question occurred 4 years before the charges were brought up. It was absolute bullshit.
