100+ RBI's every year and the face of our franchise, and one of the best SS in the game and can steal 40+ bases a year. Ya they suck.
Not gonna lie, since coming back from injury it's obvious Reyes has lost a step or two in the speed department.
WTF? WTF? Excuse me. Where the hell did I write that they suck? Learn to read, people. Learn to read.
I'm a Yankee fan but would like to see the Mets get out of this laughing stock mode. Wright and Reyes to me are probably both top 5 at their position (maybe top 3 for Wright) but I think that's more just a lack of elite quality players at 3B and SS in the league today. Both those guys if you got the right deal I think would be tradeable but you'd have to make sure it was a really good deal to sell it to the fan base but I could see it making sense.
yur not gonna get equal value for wright and reyes. and id rather not trade them anyway. 1.reyes ss 2.pagan cf 3.wright 3rd 4.beltran rf 5.bay lf 6.davis 1st 7.thole c 8.tejada 2nd 1.???? 2.pelfrey 3.neise 4.dickie 5.????
Ok, you didn't say they suck, but what would you call them if their not great players from the stats they put up every year?
They are good players. Great in my book is used to describe players like Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, Roy Halladay, Troy Tulowitzki, Felix Hernandez, and Cliff Lee. Wright and Reyes are not top tier players.
Wright is one of the best 3B in the league, I'd put him amongst my most desirerable players. Reyes however, eh. Wayyyy to injury prone, lost a step, hate his swing.
I would consider Wright a great player. Reyes before he got injuried was one too, but not so much anymore. I still consider him a top 5 SS though.
You would rank Reyes above: Bartlett Tulowitzki HanRam Andrus Castro Drew Ramirez A.Gonzalez AYFKM?!?!?!?!
jose reyes>andrus, drew, ramirez (is that alexei??), a.gonzalez, bartlett i'll reserve any judgement/comparison with castro because he's still a rookie, but for what it's worth, jose reyes had very similar numbers his rookie season, in a ton less games played that year. EDIT: even I acknowledged that reyes has lost a step, but that's not something i'm really holding against him in a negative light. before the injury i'd considered him the fastest player in the league, and now after the injury i wouldn't call him the fastest, but he's still one of the fastest players in the mlb. what is it exactly that you don't like about his swing? his stance?
You're fucking delusional if you think Reyes is better than all of those guys. His stats suck. He is injury prone. He can't hit like he used to. I cannot believe you concider him better than, of all people, Bartlett. Give me a fucking break.
Lmao, wow. Bartlett's only real above average year during his career was just last year. The year before he had a high BA but he offered very little in terms of run production and his OPS fucking blew. This year he hit 250 with 4 hrs, and a .675 OPS. Reyes missed just about an entire year of baseball and also had a thyroid problem to start off the season and began the year very slowly, and he still outproduced Bartlett this year. He's also faster, has more power, has more range and a better arm than Bartlett does. So don't give me this bullshit that Bartlett's better than Reyes, because he's not. Throw that injury prone bullshit out as well. Reyes' injury was due more to the incompetence of the Mets training staff, not because Reyes is injury prone. If the Mets had dealt with Reyes' initial injury back in June of 09 against the Dodgers correctly, his tendon and hamstring wouldn't have subsequently gotten injured/fucked up. Before the injury in 09, Reyes hadn't had a major injury in 5 years, so please, stop saying he's injury prone, because that's bullshit. Stephen Drew and Reyes are different types of players, hard to really compare. Drew will give you more RBIs, but a similar BA, while Reyes will give you more speed and SBs. Same thing with Alexei. Alexei only hit 7 more HRs than Reyes did and had more RBIs than Reyes, but Reyes hits leadoff, and Ramirez had a bunch more ABs with runners on and RISP than Reyes did, so what can you do? And again, Ramirez doesn't give you the speed that Reyes does. Same BA, and Reyes still had a higher OPS, in a somewhat down year for him. I'll take Jose. Reyes can't hit and he sucks but he outproduced Andrus offensively by a large margin, but according to you Andrus is still better. Who's delusional?
If anything I think you're being way too critical with Reyes and way too lenient with Wright. Wright's pissed me off more than Reyes has the past few years. His K's have kept going up successively over the past 4 years, and he struck out over 160 times last year. That's too fucking much, I'm tired of it. Plus he isn't as clutch as he used to be his first few years up in the bigs. Last year his BA fucking sucked in situations with runners on. I still like him but he needs to improve upon a few areas in his game.
The more important point on hand was that what happened to Reyes was because of the Mets, not because of some notion that he's injury prone. He obviously played for the Mets, and obviously missed a majority of the season in 09, but still, that wasn't the main point that was being discussed.
Well, yeah. And he's still playing on the team with the incompetent medical staff. So if that's the reason he's getting hurt, then - using your logic - he's still likely to be injury prone in the future. I don't buy that, though.
Don't buy what? That he's not injury prone? That it wasn't the Mets medical staff that fucked it all up by initially mis-diagnosing what was wrong with him, ok-ing him to play way too early, and fucking things up even more? Jose Reyes had leg problems back when he first started playing baseball professionally and in his first 2 seasons in the MLB--in 03 when he only started playing in June of that year and missed September due to an ankle injury sliding into 2nd, and in his first full year as an MLB player, in 04. Reyes played at least 150 games in 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008. 3 of those seasons he played 161, 160, and 159 games out of the year. You can surely buy this, since it's fact. But whatever, let's just throw out this notion that he's injury 'prone' with little to nothing behind it and hope it sticks.This past year he would have been over 145+ games had it not been for the thyroid condition. But forget that, Reyes is injury prone as fuck.
