Total derailment, but in relation to this. When I was in college, people would literally fight with professors in say, psych class, because "It's not an English class, why are you grading spelling?" I'd just sit there staring at them like "Seriously? You're going to fight about being graded poorly on your atrocious spelling in college?"
I'm sure you all want to hear Michael Kay's thoughts. He says the Mets have the highest payroll in baseball and since they're going to suck next season, they have to get Halladay to keep the fans interested. Yup.
Posting on a message board is a little different from handing in an assignment to a professor. Look you guys nitpick all you want I really don't care. It's kind of sad actually... ...and yes Devil, in my opinion if your a met fan and you have a chance to grab Halladay without giving up Flores Holt or Mejia and you don't want to do it...your a moron. I remember a day when instead of Fernando Martinez it was Alex Escobar and Lastings Milledge that Met fans wanted to hold on to and they turned out great didn't they?
I agree that the Mets should make a run at Halladay, I'm just saying that it makes you look foolish when you call someone else stupid and in the same sentence fail to use a basic concept of the English language that is learned in grade school.
I don't know about foolish. More like lazy. I've made the point a billion times on this board...when it comes to grammar I don't give a shit. Could care less. My grades on TGG.com personally don't mean anything to me. At least you said how you felt and that is that the Mets should make a run at Halladay. IF Toronto starts saying well we want Niese Flores and Martinez and Holt then the answer is no. But when Fernando Martinez is at best the 4TH BEST prospect in a system like the Phillies system, and they are not only your direct competitors in the division but also in the Halladay sweepstakes, you don't let Fernando Martinez or John Niese come in between an acquisition that can help your team like Roy Halladay.
Well, when you proceed to ignore that people have a problem with your use of English, it makes you look that much worse. Plain and simple, when I see someone use poor grammar or spelling on a message board, it devalues my opinion of them. I don't care if that is right or wrong. If you're too lazy to form correct sentences using knowledge gained in your earliest years of school, I have no reason to believe you've formed your opinions using knowledge gleaned at any other point. As for Halladay, I wouldn't blame the Mets for letting him go to Philly. They need to decide whether they are a competing team, or if they're entering rebuilding mode. If they're headed for rebuilding, then there is no reason to get Halladay. If they go after Halladay, they have to be prepared to do more because you're scrapping the future and spending a lot of money to win now.
Alio this might come as a shock but I don't care what you think. If you devalue someones opinion because of grammar and not content on a MESSAGE BOARD then whatever. It doesn't bother me. I'd rather see someone make a million mistakes and come up with a good point then write a perfect sentence of mindless dribble. And I wrote that post at like 3 in the morning. While high. So grammar is the last thing on my mind. As for Halladay, I WOULD blame the Mets if they let him go to Philly IF that was the package. Again we're talking about something written by Jon Heyman. He has the credibility of a turd. If it was Rosenthal saying this was the package and the Mets turned it down then I put a lot more weight into the report. But as I established with LTS we're speaking hypothetically because I was just so surprised to see that Met fans were against this. Your not getting a rental player as he's under contract at an affordable rate for next year as well. 14 million for Roy Halladay is affordable when your team is in New York. My point is this. Fernando Martinez is arguably your best prospect so of course you'd need to see him in any deal. But after that the names being mentioned weren't so significant that you needed to stop and not want to do it. There's no Holt. There's no Mejia. There's no Flores.
And what I'm saying is that the Mets aren't winning this year or any year if they keep trying to tack things on to the abortion of a core that they have right now.
So what do you want to do? Because if your REALLY rebuilding then you need to trade Beltran and Johan.
What, that doesn't make any... /checks The Big Book of REALLY Rebuilding for Dummies "If you are not trading 3 of the top prospects in a very thin farm system, then YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO trade your 32 and 30 year old superstars. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY!" Well I'll be damed.
Seriously, are you that simpleminded? Why would they need to trade two players who are still under contract and have quality years ahead of them? What does that have to do with developing the young players they do have into a solid foundation, then adding veterans where needed?
why would the blue jays be looking for a trade? if you want him, you come get him, and they'll counter offer.
Let me get this straight...you want to rebuild but you want to keep your superstars that are getting on in years. Beltran is 32 with bad knees. Yea he's the perfect candidate to keep on a team that you want to REBUILD! Johans velocity is going down every year and we're rebuilding. LET'S KEEP HIM!
Oh what's that? Another smartass remark. It's all your good for. You just called the core an abortion. Johan and Beltran are the oldest players of said core. You want to rebuild. THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO TRADE THEM!!! I am in NO WAY advocating trading Johan OR Beltran. But the Learn to Swim plan is to rebuild and add phantom prospects to these players and maybe by the time Beltran is 37 and his knees are totally shot and Johan is 35 and his fastball is down in the high 80's you can compete with these said young players. Do you know how long it takes to build a farm system?? Especially if your not unloading anyone?
I never said that Halladay wouldn't help the Mets. But he alone does not make them a championship team. And since he's already 32, and the Mets would be dumping 3 of their better young players (and 2 of their closer-to-ML-ready ones) to get him, that would leave a very small and unattainable window.
...In the limited time Niese has been up...he sucks. And if anything Martinez showed he's not even CLOSE to being major league ready. The Mets are well documented as not having pro prospects that are close to the major league level. Which is ANOTHER reason why you do this deal. Do you really mean to tell me, that next year with a healthy reyes and beltran back and the top of the rotation looking like Johan Halladay and Pelfrey that you wouldn't be the favorite in the NL EAST? Of course you would.
Who's playing first base? Why would Beltran be healthy, you just said he had no knees? What are they doing about second base? Catcher? Right field? Left field? The rest of the bullpen behind Rodriguez? They most fucking certainly would not be the best team in the division. And the fact that you write Niese and Martinez off on the basis of cup o' coffee sample sizes is basically all I need to know about your understanding of player value.
