Does anyone really believe that all those meetings with McFadden equate to him being their targeted pick? If so I have a Bridge to sell you. I say quite the opposite. In fact, I think they F-ed up by going into overkill. I think it went to far when they put him on MTV's Real World - New York, how can he live with all those a-holes.
Yes, I do believe it shows we have genuine interest in McFadden. You don't waste that much time on a smokescreen. Is McFadden our #1 choice? I think so, but if Gholston or Long are there, too, then either one could easily be our pick as well. The Jets did all their homework on McFadden. If they pass on him, it's because someone else is available that they want more, someone else offered a busload of picks, or because his character did not check out.
Just an opinion, but I dont think you can read anything into the amount of visits, group hugs, bowls of cereal or hotel rooms with Paris Hilton a prospect receives prior to the draft. The goal here is misinformation and the reason people here are confused is because in the past, the Jets sucked at it...now they seem to be doing quite well. Kudos to them. I was watching some ESPN2 draft show about previous drafts and they interviewed a bunch of players about their draft day experiences...a common theme expressed by players was that they had no idea that Team X was gonna draft them based on previous meetings. Im not saying the Jets wont take Mcfadden, i just think that they are putting on the dog and pony show for some reason, say to get offers for a trade or to get Al Davis all ryled up so he takes DMC. I wouldnt be unhappy with DMC but I dont think hes the best pick for the Jets.
I might be right, but I am talking out of my ass? Ok? As for McFadden I cant wait until draft day so all you McFadden lovers can eat your words. He wont be a Jet, mark my words.
I read in The Times (The Trenton Times) this morning in a article on the Philadelphia draft that the Jets are totally sold on McFadden due to the extensive background checking as well as any other intangible that they can think of; the rumor is that the Jets plan on trading up to the Rams spot or Atlanta's spot to ensure that McFadden is on our ballclub.
I will be really pissed off if we trade up, take whats there, and if the player(s) that we want aren't there trade DOWN. I would still like McKelvin or Hardy. There are no good players from 6 down
Plan to be pissed then. The Jets didn't sign off on 140 million dollars in new contracts so that they can trade down for a mediocre player in the first round. They will pick at 6 or above 6 and get one of the players they really want. Right now I think they will trade up to #3 to do it. Everything depends on whether St Louis takes Long or Dorsey. If they take Dorsey Atlanta will be trading down.
How is every player outside of six mediocre? Example; Gholstons stock has risen because all the so called experts say hes great. I really hope the Pats get him and he turns out to be a horrible horrible bust. Back to topic. Revis was at 14 last year, by your statement hes mediocre right? This draft is really lacking outright superstars, and I think the quality from the top to the bottom of the rankings is closer this year than it has been for quite a few years. I'll concede that the Jets do appear to be up to something :wink:
If we draft McFadden with our first pick, I will for the first time, have serious doubts about Mangini and Tanninbaum. - The only thing this kid has after watching him play is extreme speed and the ability to utilize very large seams. Which are prevalent in the college game, but not so much in the NFL. - He goes down much of the time on first contact. - He is built more like a wide out with no legs, and no center of gravity. - He runs upright (and I HATE that with RBs). - Of course there is always the fact that we don't need a RB as we already have an extremely fast RB who is dangerous everytime he touches the ball in Leon. - Drafting a RB in with such a high pick is 'usually' a terrible move. Every freaking year there is some hyped up skill player who every Jet fan on these boards is crying that we need to take with our highest pick. For the record, lets all remember these rediculous McBusten posts when the only other RB taken in the first round is Mendenhall and the stinking Pats are ramming him down our throats twice a year for the next 8 years. You know, after Mcfadden is a distant retarded memory. Tangini has been 'fairly' smart with their picks thus far. I don't really see them making such an outright BLUNDER. But I guess after reading all this BS that is either a smoke screen or not, maybe they are about to do just that. P.S. notice the only other team who people think are going to take McFadden with their high first pick is Oakland!!!!??? How can this fact alone NOT tell you something about taking this kid with our pick? No red flags being waved? Sheesh
A mediocre first round player, so you're pretty much saying a mediocre first round pick considering no one knows where they will land. Yea that makes alot of sense, do you know how valuable first round picks are now a days? Theres a reason for that and its not in the hope that the pick lands somewhere between 1 and 3. No matter how hard to study these guys there is no way to tell how they are going to pan out in the NFL. We got one heck of a football player at number 47 last year. So if we trade down I am fine with that. If we stay where we are and land Gholston I am also fine with that too, but one thing I dont see the Jets doing is trading up for anyone.
You just called Dewayne Roberston...excellent. ? I can't believe you jerks are still complaining about switching to the 3-4. Here's something for you Robertson defenders: http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?p=827611#post827611
Ok dude taking a rb is not stupid, i bet that the lions are kicking themselves right now for not taking peterson with the second pick. Lt at 5 worked out pretty good. Heck even The bills dont look to bad taking that guy last year. Sure there are busts. But there are busts at every position and you cant be scared of that. He is the BPA in the draft, and there is no argueing about that.
EVERY year. Go back and watch tape from 2004. DRob was a pro bowl shaft that year, he's very solid when he's one on one. He also played great the last 8 games of 06 even tho he was under sized and out of position. Mangini praised him over and over in 06. You guys just continue to bash DRob year after year, did he work out? Maybe not but its damn sure hard when he switches positions after only two seasons and then is asked to learn a whole new defense. On top of that he's going up against guys that out weigh himi by 30-40 pounds. DRob was not built to take on blockers, but for some reason Mangini felt the need to play him there. EDIT: It looks like DRob is going to Denver, he'll make a good DT in the 4-3. I'm sorry it never worked out here.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the switch...it's just dissapointing that we couldnt find a place for a pretty good player.
I don't know about that - His contract will be due soon - Do you pay him the $$$ he'll want with his knees? Do you make your decision about how to run your defense on a guy with those knees? All the while You STILL need a bigger run stopping DT next to him in the 4-3!!!!!! Meh. I'm glad the Jets are going down the road they are.... Either way the defense was a work in progress- the end product has a MUCH higher cieing going with their multi front Defense.
adrian peterson runs upright. then again the reply to that is hes no adrian peterson. we'll see. and you havent seen enough of him if you think hes purely a product of the system in ARK. seriously. built like a wideout with no legs? he has small legs ill agree, but his upper body is jacked and his frame can add another 10-15 making him the same size if not bigger than adrian peterson. i think the nfl teams can find a way tomake his legs more developed. were not set at RB. thomas jones is gone in 2 yrs and there wont be another McFadden within the next 2 yrs. a player who is hyped up draft boards? this guy was one of the best rb's in the country his freshman year. if singlehandedly dominating the SEC isnt impressive than what is? so along with ridiculous on field production, testing at great measurables makes him bad too? and your ps is pointless the dolphins have ronnie brown and a slew of backups, the rams have stephen jackson, the falcons have a gaping hole at QB and DL and Jerrious Norwood is good enough to not jump on McFadden when they can address DT or QB. and go RB later. chiefs cleaned house to get younger and with the what is it 6 picks in the first three rounds theyll eventually get someone cheaper than the 4th pick to rotate with johnson. and they have gaping holes on OL. answer your question? if you dont think hes gonna be good just say so. lol
Another thing I HATE is people throwing the Peterson BS around. How long has Peterson been in the NFL? lets wait and see how he does this year and next year before we crown him the next Walter Payton. I wonder what Jim Brown thinks about picking McFadden with a high first rounder. Or C. Martin. There have been only a hand full of RB that have been worth high picks like this. ONLY A HAND FULL. Most get hurt in todays game WAY to soon for such an investment. Jim Brown was worth it, Curtis was worth it, Payton, Sanders, I can name maybe 10 others that have lasted more than 8 years and have been consistantly healthy and productive. Unless the RB is built like a tank and is EXTREMELY durable the simple truth is that they will likely get injured and have a short career. Thats why you plug in a DECENT RB into a GREAT system with a GREAT supporting cast and WHAM you have a GREAT running game! Pick McFadden with our 6th and it will most likely be a WASTE. Peterson lol. Just wait, he was already out a few games last year due to injury.
