I don't believe they insert rods in the shoulder for rotator cuff injuries. That sounds more like a structural solution than a connective tissue one. Maybe he had some fractures in the shoulder or collarbone from landing on it?
Not that I am sure it will happen, but what if "Old Noodle Arm" is the guy who leads us forward to win the Super Bowl? It's unbelievable how people can sit here and pretend they know something no one else does. This is the decision of the CS. If he can't do the job, he won't have the chance, but that's not a decision any of us will have the responsibility to make.
It would be smart to put him on ir before they know what he can do?? He is throwing the ball right now. The FO has handled the QB position very well so far. They got chad to give back a bunch of $$$$ and they let him compete for the job thats fair. They got ramsey on the cheap and drafted a promising rookie.
You have got to be kidding. This kind of post causes you to lose all credibility. Are you on the Jets medical staff or the Jets coaching staff? Do you KNOW the condition of his shoulder? Do you KNOW how he is performing in mini camps??? Can you see into the future? You are not on the Jets staff, you haven't seen the closed mini camps and you can't predict the future. It's obvious you hate Pennington. But this CS is employing an open competition for QB. If Pennington gives the Jets the best chance to win come September, he will start. To sit here on July 3 and state that Pennington should not be the starter when the competition is Ramsey, Bollinger and Clemmens is just plain ignorant. It would be one thing if you were saying that Pennington should sit so the line could gell, his arm could get stronger and his chances of avoiding injury increase. But you just don't like the guy, period. And the only reason you give is your perception of his future arm strength. Put some thought into your posts please.
On the OTH you seem to be a lover of his. You really think that there is competition at QB? The way I see it the entire process is weighted in CP favor. Bolly is really not a qualified QB. Same goes for Ramsey. Clemens is totally raw. So who does that leave none other then CP so long as he can chuck the rock like a elite QB & not wounded ducks like he threw last year.
How does that weigh the process in his favor? What should the Jets have done instead? Brought in Culpepper or some other established veteran when they are rebuilding? The Jets have set the QB situation up well for the present and the future. If Pennington is ready and healthy, he starts and he should. Then we will see if he is done or not. If he doesn't have it anymore, Clemmens learns for a year and plays next year. If Pennington comes back, you have Clemmens in the wings with 3 years to play with before you have to decide what to do - like San Diego did. If Pennington is not ready or is through, Ramsey keeps the seat warm for Clemmens for a year while the new line grows up. The only mistake that I see the Jets could make would be to start Clemmens this year behing that new line. You don't want to ruin a new QB that way.
Cause all the other guys are not considered a starter so if the NYJs CS were really serious about prodding CP then they would have brought in someone who most so called "experts" would consider starter material. If you took a poll of so called FB experts Bolly & Clemens would not even be on the radar & CR MIGHT maybe MIGHT get mentioned from a few of them.
Just to see what is left maybe the former Raider/NYG guy. At lleast he has some status to him & could maybe with decent coaching be a suprise player. Who else was available that we passed on leaving Culpepper out of the equation. Possibility even Fiedler instead of Ramsey could have pushed CP since he has won games in the NFL.
Oh my. Champ, I have always tried to listen to your point of view, and give your arguments the benefit of the doubt, but this ranks up there on my own personal Worst Posts of All Time. You figure Ramsey is a sure-fire miss, and that no one believes he is starter material, yet you think Kerry Collins is? :rofl2: You wouldn't give the ball to Brooks Bollinger, who ran for his life behind an OLine that ruined two QB's seasons, and not only survived, but actually thrived more than could be fairly expected, but you would rather have a guy who played all of what, 5 plays last year? Kerry Collins IS a surprise player. He was supposed to be great. Surprise! hmy: And Jay Fiedler? He sucked in Miami, and he couldn't stay healthy more than 10 minutes here. Not that I honestly believe he could have been competitive or anything anyway. The race, as it stands is, and should be, Penny in the lead for the starting spot. (He is the incumbent, and the incumbent must always be defeated before stepping aside. Hell, the guy gave back millions, worked his ass off to come back, and is still working. Not to mention, how many pro athletes, once thier season is ended via injury spend every game on the sidelines? Everyone wants to make fun of the "Towel Boy" but damnit, that was CLASSY. He could have sat home and collected his checks, but instead, he stood out in the freezing cold all winter and tried to support his team, and a 3rd string QB just trying to survive.) After Chad, there are a bunch of other options. My personal preference is to have Bolly as the #2, with Ramsey #3, and Clemmens waiting his turn patiently at #4. Before you write off Chad as a has-been that never was, please let me know what position you coach for the Jets. Or before you tell me he can't throw a pass more than 10 yards without it floating, show me the film you took during the closed door practices when Penny was actually getting most of the snaps, or before you argue that he is gimpy and his arm will never be totally healed, let me see your PhD in Sports Medicine. Look, I understand the devout loyalty you have to the Darkside Champ, but damn, this is ridiculous. Same goes for all the other people writing off Penny already. This guy was a major key to us being a field goal short of the AFC Championship just eighteen friggin months ago. Hell, Neil O'Donnell got more chances to fail by the Jets Nation than Penny is getting.
Back to the Jim Kelly thing, I dug this up... looks like it was just a separated shoulder. Sept 18, 1982 Miami (Fla.) 14 v Virginia Tech 8 Kelly completed 17 of 24 passes for 207 yards before leaving the game early in the fourth period after being shaken up on a tackle by Tech end David Marvel. Kelly was taken from the field for examination and the injury was diagnosed as a separated right shoulder.
