I'm sorry you don't understand how conversations on message boards work. Using your own logic, go back and refer to the only reference to Edwards in the post I responded to. It's really not that difficult. Now, this is really getting off track. Please stick to the topic at hand, take a deep breath, and calm down.
Most receivers in the NFL have faced top rated corners. Getting shut down by a top rated corner does nothing to make me think he'll do better the next time he faces one. I'm sorry, when someone mentions Revis I just immediately assume whatever receiver he's facing isn't doing shit that day. If Marshall proves me wrong I'll be surprised. He is nasty though, top 3 WR in the league.
I would put Marshall on a plane with Andre Johnson. That being said, it is that kind of receiver that Revis faced last year (well any receiver) and excelled.
Fitzgerald doesn't even get considered? Take your pick between the three. I think I'd go Fitz though.
true, most recievers do face top corners, but he had the luxury of PRACTICING w/ champ, who was about as nasty as a corner could get. That's gotta help a wr tremendously, as far developing their game
Don't worry Phin fans, Hartline, Bess, Camarillo and the other jag you guys drafted will do just fine against the rest of our secondary !!! :rofl:
Practice? You wanna talk about practice? Again, Champ is about 4 years past his prime. He WAS about as nasty as a corner could get - 5 years ago. Marshall also doesn't practice against him anymore and never did when he was in his prime.
Sans the sarcasm, this is actually a fair point. The phins have no one at #2 who scares anyone. Hartline vs. Cromartie? I will take that matchup.
well, didn't ted ginn smoke revis for a 50 yard td last season? They've got to have someone better than ginn on that team. I didnt follow the 'fins really, but don't tell me he was their #1wr last year.... Who was their #1 last year? I assume he'll be the #2 now, should be a handful vs cromartie. btw, cro is pretty nasty, its just that marshall is too much for him, but cro will keep most recivers in check pretty good. tackles like a sissy tho
Sure Revis got smoked. Again I will say this a game like that will never happened against this Jets defense again while playing the Phins. Congrats Tedd Ginn got 1 amazing play on Revis. Guess what hes gone now. whoever your #2 is will have an awful time with Cromartie all over him.
no, i'm not hangin nothin, i'm just saying that if GINN (who, sorry dolphin fans, kinda sucks) was able to do that vs the jets #1 cb then it's not a given that the jets secondary will hold down the dolphins recievers. Thats all i mean by that. Kind of in response to the previous posts stating that the dolphins have no one dangerous
Ginn made a good play and burned Revis. It was the only time all season he got beat deep, and the first time in a long time I remember it happening. I think Cromartie should be able to man up on Hartline without too much trouble.
Scoffaveli (or somebody) made the point about the Chargers' competition last year. The Chargers played some really poor teams. We all knew that prior to the Jets-Chargers game, when Charger trolls were running their mouths talking about how good their defense actually was. If you look at the actually good quarterbacks the Chargers faced last year, they had field days. Roethlisberger threw for 333 yards. McNabb threw for 450 yards. Palmer threw for 314 yards. Unless you consider Eli really good, that's it; no Brees, no Manning, no Brady, no Favre, etc. When they faced real quarterbacks, they got lit up. They still won two-thirds of those games, but it sure as shit wasn't because of their secondary. I like Ron Rivera, but that defense has gotten worse under his guidance. Undeniably so.
Jason Taylor, Antonio Cromartie, Ladanian Tomlinson... I would argue that if anyone thinks its still 2006, its your GM..
I think you would have trouble finding any GM in this league who is willing to take Cromartie over Davis or Smith, even if it's for just one season. Cromartie has had a bad rap for years now..
To say you can't see Marshall dominating Cromartie is absolute lunacy. I have trouble envisioning Marshall dominating Revis, but that matchup will be a toss-up, as they are both elite players. But Cromartie? Marshall is the most physical WR in the league, and Cromartie is by all accounts one of the least likely to appreciate the physical nature of that matchup. Look for Miami to try to get that match-up going all day long, and look for the Jets D to do everything in their power to avoid it.
that would be a decent argument if Taylor and LT were being brought in as starters meant to turn the team around. The only guy you listed that is going to be heavily relied on is still very young and hasn't had his talent used correctly in a few years. I'm not gonna argue that Cromartie can or would dominate Marshall but you seem to have little idea of what his strengths are. Cromartie doesn't tackle well but that does not mean he isn't physical. He was brought in because he can be very physical with a WR at the line of scrimmage in bump and run coverage. Marshall very well could dominate Cromartie one on one but it wouldn't be because Cromartie couldn't be physical with him.
It doesn't matter. Just like Revis does to Moss, he'll do to Marshall. Take him completley outta the game. Marshall will get 3 or 4 receptions and minimal yardage. That leaves the rest of the Phins wr corps who are nothing special and nothing to be feared. Camarillo, Bess, Hartline and Grice Mullen ? Really? That's like saying teams have to respect Brad Smith and Clowney. Sure they might make a play here or there but nothing for other teams to really key in on. Their no bodies in the passing game. Wilson, Cro, Lowery and our safetys can handle containing those jag's. The most important part of the Jets defense vs Phins offense won't even be with the passing game. It will have to do with stopping Ronnie and Ricky and the wildcat.
