Mark Sanchez......

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  1. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    A. Your right in NFL terms he is a baby. He is 22 years old and had one year as a starter in college.

    B. Last week he led the team back from 11 down in the 4th QTr, he put the team in position to win late.

    C. Today he had a disastrous performance, there is no arguing that point. This was one of his 3 terrible games, in a game against a superior team that outplayed us in all facets of the game.


    I'm not sure we were watching the same game, the D was atrocious today. Was anyone covering Wes Welker, he had 15 catches for nearly 200 yards! Do you really think this D performed at an acceptable level today? or last week?

    Regarding your last comment, he has said that he was terrible after the NO game and the Buffalo game, I'm sure he said the same after the game yesterday. Its like some of you have never watched football before this year and just expect a rookie QQB to be Peyton Manning right out of the gate. It doesn't work that way, the best QBs in the game have struggled as rookies.

    Sanchez has had his ups and downs this year, he has shown flashes of greatness and that is all you can or should expect out of a rookie QB. If he is making the same kind of mistakes next year and into his 3rd year then there is valid cause for concern. I thought Sanchez would be a great QB before the draft and I have seen nothing so far this year to change my opinion.
     
  2. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Who cares, then he would be the starting QB next year of the of the STl Rams or Browns and become a future great one with them. If Sanchez went back to school he would be the topp pick of the draft and we wouldn't be in position to get him.

    He will learn more from taking his lumps at the NFL level then he would have from another year of tearing up the Pac 10.
     
  3. nyjunc

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    I have to know- are the people criticizing Mark for his bad year watching the games? Are you just looking at his overall #s and jumping to this conclusion like the media?

    He was awful yesterday, it happens especially for a rookie. 13 of his 16 INTs have come in just THREE games. When he's been bad he's been really bad but outside of those 3 games he's given us a chance to win the other 7. he didn't blow either game to Miami, he didn't blow the Jax game.

    The guy has played well for a rookie and he's had 7 of 10 games where he has played well enough to win. It's not his fault his HC talked big before the season and set up unrealistic expectations.

    We have our QB of the future and he's playing well enough to win now 70% of the time. I know we need a scapegoat but let's not ruin more careers by unfairly criticizing young players w/o knowing all the facts. Just b/c the media goes nuts looking at 16 INTs and averaging that out doesn't mean we have to. The smart fan will realize 13 of the 16 INts came in 3 games and that he has played well enough to win the other 7. Be the smart fan.
     
  4. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Thank you junc....A VERY good post
     
  5. LoyalJetsFan

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    *DING DING DING*!

    We have a winna!
     
  6. JohnnyJohnson

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    Truth has been told
     
  7. EL1525

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    Amen Brother!
     
  8. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    It could go either way man. You are of the opinion he will be good,and i hope you are right. It's not wrong for people to think he will be terrible based on some of the horrible play by him either. No one is wrong,until thye are proven otherwise. He is a rookie,and i was pissed yesterday. I got all over him. But his decision making has me worried. I just don;t think either side of the argument can call the other wrong for feeling how ever they do. We won't know for some time who is right.
     
  9. AbdulSalam

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    I have watched every game Sanchez has played this year. He played poorly against Jacksonville, Pats (Game 2), Bills, and Saints. His most effective performance came against Oakland when he threw the ball the least amount of times and simply managed the game. His worst performance was against Buffalo followed by the Pats G2 and then the NO game. He has been intercepted mutliple times in 6 of 10 games. Right now he looks like a rookie QB and he is among the worst QBs in the NFL currently.

    Nobody expected him to come out and immediately perform as if he was Johnny Unitas. I am not that surprised by how he has performed. I expected him to pretty much suck because he is a rookie who didn't play enough in college. I still think he will be a good player in the NFL but I also think he is being asked to do way too much at this stage in his development. I have criticized Schotty before and I will do so again. Schotty is asking Sanchez to win football games for the Jets - All that Sanchez should be doing is to not lose games for the Jets - to not turn the ball over 2 or more times per game. He should be handing the ball off and throwing high percentage passes. If the receiver is not open he should throw the ball into the stands.

    What is happening is that they are asking too much from this young QB and he is not able to play at the leve they are asking from him. The results are predictable: losses, sacks, interceptions, poor completion percentage, the defense being on the field for 40 minutes a game etc. etc. etc.

    So when I say that Sanchez is one of the worst QBs in the NFL right now - that is simply a fact. Its not a knock on Sanchez because he is being asked to do way too much right now and he is making very poor decisions because he is forcing the ball into places he shouldn't. I hope that he is learning to throw the ball away. It may be that he needs a new OC. It may be that he needs to sit for a game and watch and learn.

    Hopefully the Jets show some improvement down the stretch.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    Only Jay Cutler has more ints than Sanchez, but he has five more td passes, and arguably does not stand behind as good an OL.

    The real problem for Sanchez is he's not getting any better, and is arguably getting worse. Other teams have his game film now. The Pats defenders were quoted as saying they knew there would be plays for them to make. And they made them.

    I also am amazed how many here are prepared to in effect say all the rest of the team is as bad as Sanchez has been. Simply not true.

    I see where you quoted junc. Always a risky business - he was in error to say 13 of Sanchez's picks have come in three games. The correct number is 12 in three games, with two against the Jags, and one each against Houston and Tenn. He threw none against Miami in two games. Well Miami has a lousy pass defense. In only two other games did he not throw an interception.

    And where does this implicit nonsense come from that in effect throwing even a single interception a game is the standard of acceptablity?!? Good enough to win when throwing only one int?

    Pretty much all starters by now have played ten games. How many NFL Qb's right now have averaged one int per game or more?

    Of the 33 starters listed on the nfl.com site, only six have thrown ten or more interceptions. That means, my friends, that average is less than one per game. By the numbers, seven is roughly the median number.
     
  11. APK 8

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    I coudn't agree more with this statement. Schottenheimer is asking Sanchez to win games and he's not capable of doing that yet. Just reign in the game plan - especially in the first half. let Sanchez get a feel for the game. You can always open things up as needed.
     
  12. sec314

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    Next year will tell if we did the right thing. Clemens, who I was rooting for, absolutley blew it in pre-season. He sucked, we had no choice. Wish we had Jeff Garcia or someone but Kellen blows.
     
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    We were down 24-0. How many times can you run TJ for 2 yards.
     
  14. AbdulSalam

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    As often as it takes. If you notice the more you run TJ the better he gets. Thats how a running game works. You don't stop running the ball whem you have the Jets talent level just because you are only getting 2 yds. You keep pounding and then you start to bust the D for 6-7 -10 yd runs. You wear them down.

    We were down 24-14 and should have stayed on the ground. Instead we went to the air and Sanchez got pcked for the third time - GAME OVER.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    In fact the series the Jets had the ball after NE went up 24-0, the first two plays were running plays. On 3rd and 2 they direct snapped for another running play, but Thomas made a great play and busted it up for a four yard loss. No passes, and it ended three and out.
     
  16. fltflo

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    Sanchez

    Guys,

    I know I am going to get pounded for this, but I am going to say it anyway. Just watching this first haf and Mark performance, I have to tell you, this kid is starting to make me a bit nervous.

    Is it me or does it now look like he is second and third guessing everything? Can his confidence be that shaken as this point and will leaving him in make it worst. He just does not look smooth and it appears he is thinking or over thinking every play... what do you folks think ?
     
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    Same shit different day. You have just opened the next in the long line of bench him, or leave him in to look like crap. I am on the fence, but do believe he should be on some sort of performance based system.
     
  18. IATA

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    Panthers are playing good defense. When you have boneheaded lineman ignoring the snap count and dudes running by, it will get to you.

    He has made some good decisions, some bad ones. It'll get better.

    What pisses me off, is he keeps underthrowing the ball today.
     
  19. Heavy Metal Thunder

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    I think you heard what the commentators said and are just repeating it.
     
  20. dstewstar

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    Sanchez is starting to pull the ball down and run with it, good decision. Yes, he does look hesitant with his throws. Let the kid play QB or let him sit. You cannot second guess him on every throw.
     

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