Mark Sanchez vs Josh Freeman

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    No but I'd trust him more in a big spot. Give me Rivers sept through dec and sanchez in january.

    Rivers is one of many bigger name, great reg season QBs who tend to melt in big spots in January. Give me lesser #s and a guy who isn't afraid of the big spot any day.
     
  2. Zach

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    Guess why I don't play that piece of shit?
     
  3. 624

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    It's actually not like that at all.

    Marino and Dilfer's careers are over, and it's obvious who was the better QB. The 3 from the 09 draft are still up for debate and will be for years.
     
  4. tommytom

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    yes they are up for debate. But to judge a qb solely on wins and losses in the playoffs does not make sense either as a qb on a team like the lions of the past never had a chance to make the playoffs.

    On ability Stafford #1 by far by he may be too injury prone.
     
  5. sg3

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    let me know when or IF Josh Bustman ever gets his team even INTO the playoffs no less winning one of those games
     
  6. Dirty6Sanchez

    Dirty6Sanchez Well-Known Member

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    You could easily make the argument that he is. Rivers is straight garbage when it matters most whereas Sanchez thrives. Give me Dirty over that whiny bitch any day.
     
  7. Franchize

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    Wow...

    I'm a Jets fan and have defended Sanchez since he's been here but wow....
    just wow... That's a bold statement that is saying an awful lot there.
     
  8. tommytom

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    Sanchez will win atleast 2 super bowls but Marino is still better.
     
  9. sg3

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    that would be true of just about ANY NFL quarterback not named Montana or maybe Staubach

    and all those three were great without the benefit of filthy cheating that should have gotten them banned for life
     
  10. BakerMaker

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    Unlike Freeman and Stafford, Sanchez plays often in tough weather games. He doesn't have the luxury of playing in nice weather often(Freeman) or in a dome for home games(Stafford).
     
  11. soxxx

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    Sanchez has officialy seperated himself from Freeman after what happened yesterday. Freeman has completely regressed and is now even worse than he was his rookie year.

    Anyone who says Sanchez has regressed is nuts. Hes got 14 TD (12 passing, 2 rushing) and only 6 interceptions in 7 games. Hes on pace for 25+ TD and probably 12 picks. And on top of that, Sanchez had no run game or Oline help.

    If Freeman was on the Jets right now they would be 2-5 at best.
     
  12. MBGreen

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    One thing I noticed Sanchez improved upon was his cadence at the line. How many neutral zone infractions did the Chargers' Dline commit yesterday? like 8 or 9?
     
  13. Dirty6Sanchez

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    What redeeming qualities does Rivers have? He's dumb as a pile of bricks, is a terrible leader and cracks under pressure. He also has the privilege of playing in a God-Awful division. Why would you take him over Sanchez. Enlighten me?
     
  14. Miamipuck

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    He hasn't separated himself on the basis of the games this week.

    If you are going to include rush td's and such, also include fumbles. It looks disingenuous.

    Sanchez has improved but he still has stinkers and maddening mistakes, just the same as Freeman has. They are young QB's and it is still early in the season, lets see how this plays out before we make grand predictions and statements........

    BTW I am happy with Sanchez, would rather have him at this point although I do curse him at least 5 times a game.
     
  15. ScotsJet

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    I've always said Sanchez over Freeman and I haven't seen anything this season to convince me I was wrong in that assessment. Of course nothing is written in stone just yet, but I'd be pretty surprised if Freeman ever won a Super Bowl.
     
  16. tommytom

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    So you use stats to say Fred Jackson is not that good. Lol.
     
  17. Miamipuck

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    Keep it in one thread don't tard this one up........
     
  18. Jet Blue

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    LOL.. don't be so silly about the Super Bowl talk......


    Of course Freeman can win a Super Bowl... Guy is a monster QB, hard to even name his weapons right now - RB? WRs? His TE is just about shot.
     
  19. dwalsh

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    Report: Bucs coordinator doesn’t trust Freeman to throw deep
    The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are above .500 and just one game out of first place in the NFC South, but their season so far has been a little up and down.

    In Week 5, they lost by 45. In Week 6, they bounced back to beat the New Orleans Saints. In Week 7, they lost a supremely ugly game to the Bears. One of the biggest reasons for this inconsistency? Josh Freeman's(notes) newfound proclivity for interceptions. He's thrown oodles of them this year, and as a result, the Bucs aren't letting him do much passing on routes beyond 5 or 6 yards. From tampabay.com:
    For those fans who often ask why offensive coordinator Greg Olson doesn't dial up more deep shots and take the reigns [sic] off Freeman, I think the answer is right in front of you. Olson doesn't have complete trust in Freeman because he continues to make ill-advised throws. The good news? He's just 23 and has been a starter for less than two years, so none of this has to define Freeman.​

    No, it certainly doesn't define him, but it is a bit of a concern. Last year, Freeman threw just six interceptions all season, and averaged 7.3 yards per passing attempt. This year, he's already tossed 10 interceptions through just seven games (which leads the league), and his yards per attempt is down to 6.4. For comparison's sake, Eli Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers are all above 9 yards per attempt. Freeman's 6.4 places him right between Matt Cassel and Tarvaris Jackson. (my note: Sanchez is at 6.7)

    A big part of this is that defenses are paying way more attention to Freeman now, have had more time to get accustomed to his tendencies and they're making things harder for him. He only started nine games in his rookie year and wasn't very good. Last year, he came on and did some damage in the NFC South, and that got him some attention. Now he's got a reputation, and he'll have to adjust again.

    And he will. He's young, he's smart and he's well-coached. A few years from now, we'll look back at this stretch as but a hiccup. If he can't do it quickly, though, the Bucs are looking at another year on the wrong side of the playoffs.​
     
  20. Br4d

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    The ill-advised throws thing is very over-rated in terms of importance. No interception is a smart throw. What's important is how often a QB gets intercepted.

    People give Sanchez shit for making ridiculously bad decisions and chucking interceptions as a result. However he's got 6 int's this season and a 2.6% interception percentage. That 2.6% interception percentage is now constant over his last 738 throws stretching back to the start of his second season. It's a good percentage for a starting QB to have at this point in his career. It suggests that he actually takes care of the ball fairly well and tends to make good decisions with it, even if the picks he does throw drive people crazy. Interceptions drive people crazy.

    The next pick Sanchez throws will drive people crazy. whether it's in two weeks or a month. Somebody is guaranteed to pop up with "What a stupid throw, the decisions Sanchez makes are just unbelievable given he's in his third season, etc."

    God forbid he should throw a couple of picks in a game, which almost all good QB's do a few times a season. Then it'll be "he'll never learn if he hasn't figured it out by now, we should get rid of him and get a solid QB in here."

    It's amazing to me that the Jets have finally found a QB who wins in the post-season after decades of looking for that quality and now people are picking about how he looks while he's doing it. It's just pathetic.

    Half this board would have given up on Joe Namath after 1967 when he lead the NFL in interceptions for the second year in a row.
     

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