Totally agree Abyz. His whole frame is small. I never looked up his weight but it has to be a big lie. When you look at even Brees, Mannings,Rogers..and other qbs..and forget about the Ben R types...he just looks thin.
Where did you come up with this 12 million per thing? Is that how much Holmes is making currently? And anyway, he lowered his demands to half that(from what was reported) and was still told to fuck off by Tanny. As far as I'm concerned : FUCK TANNY! That bald-headed boob! Oh and FUCK HOLMES, that whiny-bitch-ass pole-smoker!!
McElroy is going to have to do a LOT of ass-kissing to the FO and his teammates for basically throwing them ALL under the bus and running them over with it after what he did. Who knows what his future holds now?
What does that say about the giving away draft choices to move-up in the draft? It's unconceivable that we could start the season without a legit back-up QB. IMO Tannenbaum is a good numbers person but lacks in the acquiring good personnel. Is it time the Jets get a new GM?
Not surprised really, he got hit so many times it's not that shocking. I'd give him a bit more leeway with it.
You are really gunning for McElroy, you know. Stop already about the interview. We are talking about whether he might be an adequate backup for Sanchez, not your favorite player on the team.
Well it's a valid question to ask, Blocker. But let's say that he manages to escape and mends fences, so to speak, Do I think he could be an adequate backup for Sanchez? Probably but from what I heard(from Tanny himself), the JETS are going to actively pursue a Back-Up for Mark that can really START for them if Mark falters(or needs a wake-up call). So while I'd be willing to let Greg have a go, Tanny probably thinks they could find someone better.
My issue with McElroy is not his interview but the fact that he's never played an NFL down. We're not in rebuilding mode, our best players are in or entering their primes, we're a win-now team. If Sanchez gets hurt or whatever, I want a veteran to come on that knows the ropes. Not as far along as Brunell of course, but we can't have a novice step into a playoff race in New York and hope he holds up. My theory has always been young starter/veteran backup, old starter/young backup. If McElroy is good he can be the #3 but we can't hang a season on him unless we absolutely have to, like a Brooks Bollinger kind of deal.
TJ Yates says hi. He was a late round rookie this year and jsut lead his team to thier first ever playoff win. A vet would be nice, but lets not discount a rookie becasue we have not seen him in action yet. McElroy has shown a good football IQ and he won a lot in the NCAA.
That's great, but Houston didn't do that by design. They lost Shaub and then Leinart before going with Yates, then lost three games in a row to end the year. Not to say he can't play, but that's a hell of a risk to take by design, putting that guy as your #2 to begin the season. Maybe it works out but there's a much better chance your season goes to hell because of poor planning.
Oh God, here we go again with the Chad Pennington "I sucked and we didn't make the playoffs because I was injured and I really shouldn't have been playing, but I toughed it out because I am a warrior and a team player and I wanted to show everyone that I bring great intangibles to the table and I promise I'll be better next year" bullshit.
I agree the planning aspect, but who exactly do you want to bring in that will be low cost capwise, want to be a back up with little to no chance to win a startign job, but that would be an effecive starter? Not a lot of that floating around out there so having several young guys around to groom will be important.
Not saying get rid of McElroy if you don't have to, but guys come available every off-season. You're not going to get a superstar but probably a guy who has been in some games that can hold the fort if Sanchez misses a couple of games or even series. A Kellen Clemens type, maybe even Clemens. He didn't even have a job until November, you never know what happens.
Actually that was Favre. Pennington played hurt and won in the playoffs the one year, the other years he was either healthy and in the playoffs or or out completely.
I was wondering when we'd discuss this. I was at the Raider game and saw Sanchez get crunched but it was the hit from behind in the Ravens game where I think he probably suffered some serious shoulder and neck injury. Of course this is superimposed over his right shouder injury which he was nursing for who knows how long. I have a feeling they hid his injury all year. They never stretched the field with his arm and I remember one end-of-the-half Hail Mary where Sanchez couldn't even get the ball close to the end zone from 50 yards. The result was tighter coverages, the little dink and dunk/crazy numbers of batted balls, timing routes all that were easy to study up on. I have a feeling every d-coordinator the Jets faced knew he had NAS (noodle arm syndrome). Let it be a lesson to Jets front office, when you sign a franchise QB, equip him with protection before you Penningtonize him. I personally disagree with the comment about how his decision-making was the issue and was not relevant to his physical condition. When your psyche knows you don't have the power nor accuracy it causes milliseconds of hesitation or re-thinking which are eons in the NFL. I really hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez is actually a surgical candidate.
This is a little one sided. Yates won his first 3 games - the third win qualified them for the playoffs. Then he lost the last 3 - the last two Houston had nothing to play for because their seed was set. Then he won his first playoff game in his 7th career start.
Agree completely. THe Baltimore game was "Sanchez as Tackling Dummy" night - he got cremated. Not only did he take the physical hits, but I think he also suffered some mental hits that stayed with him for much of the season. He did look a lot more skittish this year than in previous years - and he needs to get more mentally tough. But back to his injury, the guy didn't go deep at all and I almost forgot he could go deep - until I saw a Youtube video with is bombs from the past couple of years. He's DEFINITELY hurt - I'd bet on it.
No, it wasn't. Give me a year then. Understood. My point is they were lucky it worked out, nobody by design is going to leave their veteran team to a guy who has never played unless they have to. Houston didn't either, sometimes your third guy turns out to be good. Jeff Blake got his shot the same way back in the day with the Bengals, two guys got hurt or he'd have never gotten on the field. When it happened to us we had Brooks Bollinger, that's more typical of how it goes in that situation. Not saying I want him back, but that type of guy who can play a game or two. Not too long ago he was being hailed as the messiah around here, people defending him to the death. :lol: