It's too early for me to have a good feel for where teams value Mariota. Last year at this time I thought it was very possible the Vikings were going to be the floor for Teddy Bridgewater on the 8 pick. I got the team that wanted him right but they didn't like him as much as I thought they might and took him on the last pick in the 1st round via a trade-up. I could see Mariota going anywhere from 1 to 36 at this point. The system he's coming from is a terrible system to try to predict NFL ability in. So what teams see at the combine and at the Pro visits is going to be very important to where he winds up valued. Chip Kelly is a huge wildcard in all of this. The NFL doesn't really know what to make of Kelly yet and if he starts angling for Mariota it's going to drive the value people perceive him to have way up. Of course if Kelly thought Mariota was going to be great there's no way he'd have left Oregon 3 years ago. He'd have waited until this year and engineered a move to the #1 draft pick team and brought Mariota and his system to the NFL.
Hey, I'm all for keeping Geno on the team this season, even if we get Mariota. He's cheap and could take all the bumps and bruises Mariota would take in his first year while we continue to lay the foundation for a playoff contender. Then you just insert Mariota the next season and, hopefully, we'll be ready to take that next step to perennial playoff team and possibly even title contenders. Also, the fact that you would stick with arguably the biggest ? at the QB position in the league over someone who some have touted as having the most potential of any QB in this draft is a bit confusing. If Mariota is there at 6 and the Jets feel he has a chance to be our franchise QB, you take him and you don't look back.
And the coaching staff will care about that because? If this staff will be intimidated by the fans into giving them what they want then we need to clean house again. I don't think the staff we have now is like that though, I believe they have a plan and they're not going to jeopardize that plan because some fans will be vocal about who they start in week 1 of their first year.
Mainly because the Titans are awful on D. Luckily for them there are a lot of good defense players at the top of this draft(Williams, Gregory, Ray, Fowler, Shelton, etc.) They need help immensely on the defensive side of the ball, and they probably feel confident enough in Mettenberger to pass on Mariota. We are not in that position, we need Offense, desperately.
+ a billion. I don't get the impression that Bowles and McGag are going to give shit about fan reaction. They're going to try to do it the old fashioned way. By building a winner. _
So you don't think we should build an awesome team around a flawed player at QB? I'm pretty sure that's how over the last decade the Colts, then the new Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Saints, Giants, Packers and Broncos have done it. Trade that pick and get a Safety. Or a WR. Or an OLB. Or a TE. Or a CB. Or a DT. Or a TACKLE--yeah, lets get a TACKLE. To protect a flawed QB. Let's not get the QB worthy of being protected. _
Idk, we did do that a few years back and made it to back-to-back AFCCG's....maybe that's worth another shot.
I totally agree, but will add one wrinkle to the deal Eagles trade us 1st rd pick & Foles & maybe a 4th....
It's a system issue. Mariota doesn't fit the mold of a Wiz QB. He likes pure pocket passers with big arms... Mett is that more than Mariota for the titans. They wouldn't give him a 2nd overall ranking if that's their philosophy at QB. As for Mett being a 5th rounder... He's probably more a 3rd rounder to any team but to the Titans he is more valuable than that because he fits their offensive scheme at QB.
I didn't include the Skins cause I thought they'd either draft a QB themselves or someone (Philly) would have to trade above them as well to ensure a QB.
I was waiting for this to happen. It is how every great quarterback drops. The period between the end of the season and the draft. A player was great and then it's, "he's not fast enough," or "he doesn't know the system," or "he smoked a van of meth." The future HOF falls through the cracks and every fan of the teams that past on him kick themselves on a nightly basis. Next year it will happen to Vernon Adams for the Ducks.
The Titans almost certainly value him more than other teams would be willing to pay. Just because another team may like Mett doesn't mean they are going to pay what they think he eventually may be - they are going to pay what he's currently worth. And a guy drafted that late who hasn't proven anything and was hurt in college, then again in the pros, is not going to command a premium price. It would be great for the Titans if everyone thought he was going to be that good, and everyone would pay for it as well. But it doesn't work that way.
Mettenberger went in the 6th round, went 0-6 as a rookie and then got hurt again. I doubt he has much value anywhere in the NFL outside of the Titans and even they are probably looking at him cross-eyed at this point because frequently injured QB's are a painful subject for them.
If the Jets want Mariota, I think they are going to have to move for him. I just don't see a QB prospect like this falling into our lap, not with Chipper possibly willing to move Heaven and Earth to jump up and grab the missing variable to his equation. If he wants our spot, and the Jets aren't interested in Marcus, we should rob them blind for the 6th pick (ala Redskins/RG3). Otherwise if the Jets feel Marcus IS a potential franchise QB, you gotta go get him and not expect him to fall into out laps. But according to this mock, I'd be real surprised if Mariota is still sitting there at 6.
Browns future QB coach is training him. Good article of how they are getting around the rules to work with him. I could definitely see Cleveland jumping in front of us. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...in-about-browns-brazenly-exploiting-loophole/
well they got two in the top 20, so theres yer trading partner if you want to go down. 12 and 19 for a 5? or 6? sounds about right.
