Is putting the ball on a moving target really helped all that much by knowing how your receiver likes his eggs in the morning? Sanchez isn't all that steady with his tosses to begin with. He's just as likely to be pinpoint accurate as he is to be "close enough for gov't work". C'mon...how hard can it be? You take the ball from center, amble back few steps, gaze down field and find a cute guy with the same color shirt on that you are wearing. You give him a little wave and then you throw the football at him. Hopefully that guy, the cute one with the same color shirt on as you, catches the football and does something neat with it...like score a touchdown! Then everybody who's anybody meets in the end zone (love that name) and we dance around for a bit. It's fun. But then we have to go sit down and let the ugly guys play.
This was a well written post, and as I Pats fan, I really really really hope its true, because if Rex is using "his guys" to undermine Shotty and throw him under the bus by proxy. then it shows the true character of the guy and doesn't bode well for his career long term. but it makes sense. It is a ploy his father used in Chicago, and one of the reasons the Bears were one and done and completely out of the playoffs just 2 seasons after being perhaps the most dominant team in NFL history Before I read this post my immediate reaction was to consider the source. LT was a prima donna in SD who faded when when it mattered the most. Holmes and Burress were chronic complainers with Pittsburgh and the Giants. Why do you think the Steelers would give you an elite talent for a bag of balls and a jock strap. He was ejected from a successful team with a well liked, player friendly coach because he was a serial malcontent. So why would anyone be surprised that at the least bit of adversity Holmes, Burress, and LT would try to throw someone other than themselves under the bus It seems to me as a casual observer that your offense isn't the problem. From what I can gather, it managed to make close to 500 yds and 24 points on the road, while your defense was, dare I say, almost Pats-like in giving up 34 points Still its very early in what is certainly an unusual season to begin with. Fans all over the league are panicking way too early. In terms of a normal season, these teams are still in training camp. We won't see the true measure of where teams are for another month.
Hey, tough guy, if you have a complaint or don't agree with any of my observations, why don't you try (if you're capable) and string a few words together and rebut anything I've said. If you can't then you should head over to JI, where your snappy wit and erudite banter will be welcomed with open arms
Hey don't blame the messenger.....if its the truth I don't have the power to keep you from presenting a different point of view, if you disagree with what I wrote. Don't hate me for AGREEING with what AlwaystheJets so eloquently wrote
LT is a smart dude, and pretty good it seems at getting info out of other players. They have to be consistent in their setup and not tip their hand in any way, having the RB line up at the same depth run or pass much like a WR not tipping off his route by his stance. I remember Jerry Rice talking about always lining up the same way every time, not giving any hint to what he was going to do off the line. Same theory.
And calling Holmes, LT and Burress malcontents shows that you as a Pats fan really haven't been paying attention to the Jets. None of those guys have been a problem here. LT has been a model team player, taking a demotion and pay cut with no problem, Holmes and Burress have not thrown anyone under the bus.
patfanken- I want to respectfully disagree with you. I don't think it implies a character problem, as it pertains to Rex. Not at all. Nor do I think, if this is case, that it implies he's not long for the coaching arena. Exactly the opposite, honestly. This concept applies across politics and industry. It's the same reason that leaders who want more cover and support to throw their weight behind certain causes, ask citizens and constituents, to "make noise," "to call in," "to write-in," "to rally," etc. to put pressure on and/or make it clear, to other leaders, or to executives at companies, or to ALL involved, there's a legit issue at play, that's going to need rectified, sooner than later, one way or the other. None of that is unethical, and it's a commonly deployed technique, in general, in life. To bring it back to football exclusivly... Head coaches, many, across the league, do similar things. Rex is not the exception to the rule. It's why beat writers across the country, and national writers, almost always laugh at the teams that have "team votes" for captain, because it's often alleged that coaches "rig" the votes or use "funny math" to guarantee "their guys" get the captain spots, or a couple of the captain spots. They pick players who have good work ethic, strong ties to their teammates, good leadership, people who are students of the game, etc... Rex didn't even beat around the bush. He never has. You know which players, well he likes all of his players whatever, but you know which players are "his guys," as does the team/organization, I'd suspect, so it's about as upfront and honest as you can be. Coaches use "their guys" to send messages to the team all the time, everyday, too. Does that mean they have a character issue? Does this mean they're not long for the league? Not at all. Coach's guys get on players, if they have to, they also motivate and prop players if they need to, send any message the coach needs help sending, on a daily basis. While also helping the coach keep the pulse. Nothing questionable about it, when it's a player telling another player that he's getting too many penalties, and he's hurting the team, a message that maybe a coach wants to make sure is sent, nothing questionable about any of that, and it's widely known that players do such on a regular basis. Floating certain messages is common. It's like how the media floats messages for teams and coaches all the time, too. This is a WIDELY used technique. And honestly, if what I'm saying has any accuracy, and maybe it doesn't, but given the two main players who have come out the loudest in the same week, using the same exact code words, like; "predictable, adjust, implying telegraphing in different ways..." I'm sure there's not anyone who knows the dynamic of things in that organization that doesn't see who's saying these things, who is talking to the media, and thinking... Oh, ish just got real. We better get this corrected as quickly as possible... or... One who is a "Rex guy" and another who came here due to his Schottenheimer family ties. It doesn't get much clearer. Both leaders on the offense. Both who go above and beyond on a daily basis, whether that means helping teach teammates plays or routes, staying after practice to work, etc. I wouldn't exactly say there's anything too discreet or veiled about anything transpiring, given who is doing the talking. Two major players that have achieved MVP level. Seems pretty blatant, honestly, that a message is being floated... And hey, maybe it's not from Rex, maybe it's from the offensive players in general. I'm just saying... It all seems "calculated." And, given who the players are, and their ties to certain coaches, albeit different ones, in different ways... It should be a warning sign. And I'd disagree with your characterization of Holmes. He's a guy who stays after practice to run routes with Plax, to catch balls from the Juggs machine with Mason, to work on making sure he's on the same page with Mark (I think Rex said they had 30 extra throws on Friday, after practice, for example), a guy who takes Kerley to dinner outside of the team atmosphere to connect with him, a guy who Plax has said has been instrumental in helping him get the system, teaching him, coaching him, even when they're on the field, reminding Plax where to line up... Kerley's on record saying everytime he did something, he'd turn around and make sure Tone was watching, and ask to make sure he did it right... To think Tone's doesn't have an extremely good pulse on what's going on in that locker room, or to assume he's just stirring the pot because he's selfish... I think those would be inaccurate characterizations.
What you didn't say is the truth and your speculation isn't an addition to what the quoted poster said. You are wrong
I thought this would be a interesting thread because the downturn started last year. Something to it. You are kidding right junc? He is the boss. What the hell does the depth of a running back have to do with the OL boss? Stop with the blind faith and open your mind junc.
I definitely think there's something to it. Rex was given multiple opportunities to shut Tone's claims down this week. Say that Tone should not be talking to the media, that Tone should shut his mouth, that Tone was wrong, anything... What does Rex say? Rex implied more than once, he and "the team" want the ball in Tone's hands. He didn't imply Tone needed to muzzle it, he didn't imply Tone was wrong, he then went on to talk about Tone being their priority for a reason, went on to say even if it's just a short pass, we want him getting touches... Message sent loud and clear, no? Just me? It is just seemingly a flashing neon light, there is something to this, imo. Especially given, when Tone spoke up after the AFC game, and Rex had his presser the next day... Rex said something with the connotation of, "I didn't hear what Tone had to say, but Tone knows that's not how I operate, not how we operate, but I understand his frustration, he's a competitor. I'll talk to him." So, Rex, again, I say, he will get all over Tone, I'm sure, if he wants Tone's talking squelched or if he disagrees, etc. He did anything but, this time. Instead he used this as an opportunity to say that Tone should be getting touches, even if it's just a short pass, he used an opportunity he was handed to silence Tone and admonish him... He used the opportunity to do the exact opposite, and instead, pretty much back him. That... Is telling. Maybe it's just me, though.
If what's the truth? Some knucklehead writes a long dumb post that's full of bullshit speculation and you use it as a springboard to hurl some shit about our coach and our star players. And then you make a disparaging remark about Rex's dad. I don't need to read what some "casual observer" thinks about my team. Specially when he's talking shit about an old man with cancer. Stay classy...
gotta love that 3 step drop pass too. Schottys claim to fame. Nobody does it more. One option...one shot. This is starting to make me sick.
It's Schotty's fault, period. Why would it be the OL coach's responsibility. If anything, it would be the RB coach, not the OL coach. This is directly tied to the play design, and that is all Schotty. The bottom line is that Schotty has overall responsibility for the offense. He designs the plays and is supposed to watch film to make sure they aren't tipping their hand with the way they line up. He oversees the work of the OL and RBs coach and is supposed to make sure they do their jobs correctly. Any way you cut it, the buck rests with Schotty.
