Let's Settle This: Clemens or Pennington?

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If Pennington is healthy, who should start at QB next week?

  1. Pennington

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  2. Clemens

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Who are you ? Miss Cleo ?

    Brady could get his knee rolled up on next week, and put the pats in the same position we were when Vinny T went down.


    This is Football, and the only sure thing, is the score form the last game.

    Hell, Brady could stay healthy, and when chad starts tearing thorugh the 2nd tier teams coming up on the schedule, the defense Could gel, like they did in the second half last year, and remember, the playoff game we lost in foxboro, was an awful lot colser than the final score.
     
  2. FOURTHANDLONG

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    The Chargers have Lt and a top five defense in the league. We can't say that no can we?
     
  3. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    oh shit..right. for some reason i thought they lost the bears game.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I love how everyone is conveniently forgetting the early interception by Clemens. I guess it was Coles fault for falling down right?

    Except, even if he hadn't fallen down, the ball would still have been 2 or 3 yards beyond his reach, and would still have been picked off.

    But we'll ignore that, since it doesn't allow the Chad haters to give the boot so easily.

    JMac sucks ass, no question, but Clemens doesn't have NEARLY the same accuracy Chad has. I don't give a shit if you can throw 95 yards downfield, on a line, perfect spiral. If you can't hit your targets in the numbers consistently, you're not getting the job done.

    The last QB we had like that was VinnyT. And I don't give a damn that we made the AFC championship game. He spent the entire second half giving back what we took early in that game.

    A strong arm doesn't make you a good QB. Clemens may be good someday, but that day is not today.
     
  5. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    again,how is clemens gonna fix that? thank you for proving what i was saying. If you want to discuss the lines and shitty D,then you have a point. But this Clemens over Chad stuff has nothing to do with any of our problems,its like a retard diversion from it.
     
  6. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    But the problem with the Jets is always the starting QB, remember? :rolleyes:
     
  7. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, and Kellen Clemens could come in and lead the Jets to an undefeated rest of the regular season and win the Super Bowl. Both scenarios are purely fantasy land stuff that are probably about as likely to happen.

    The NFL is a young man's league and Chad certainly doesn't have another "rebuilding" in him especially as injury prone as he is. It would be irresponsible to go forward with Pennington for the rest of the season without determining if Clemens is going to be the guy.
     
  8. Jetzz

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    All this talk about "THE FUTURE" is great, but right in the "HERE & NOW" we should be trying to win games and get back into the playoffs. You play the player that gives you the best chance of that happening. If our team truly sucks as bad as some of you are crying it does, then it will not take long for us to either be eliminated or lose "THE EGG" to injury. Clemens still gets starting time and experience, but we at least try to win up front.
     
  9. johnny

    johnny Well-Known Member

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    Good thing we settled this. So it's agreed that since we can't come up with a starter between Chad and KC, TUI gets the start against the Dolphins :).
     
  10. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Yeah,it's a shame Chad couldn't make those tackles yesterday. Chads coverage on ST was horrible too,if only he had a stronger arm
     
  11. themasochist

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    One great quarter of football does not make a starting QB, nor a QB of the future.

    Did you guys notice how much better the OL played during that 4th quarter stretch? I am positive that a healthy Chad would have put the Jets in position to win yesterday.

    Clemens was bad at selling the screen yesterday. His play action is not even close to Chad's and that is what keeps Defenses on their heels. There is so much more to this game than throwing the ball hard.
     
  12. FOURTHANDLONG

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    1. The Jets are not winning the superbowl
    2. Chad does not have the skill to win the superbowl on a team other than the Ravens, Chargers or Bears.
    3. CLemens had the best defense in the league scared s**tless and backpeddling in the 4th Qtr. The Ravens Defense is a whole lot better than the Patriots D! A different animal all together. He attacked them and made numerous throws that Chad couldn't. He did this against the leagues best defense in his first start and it took 3 qtrs to figure it out.
    4. It serves no purpose for our Qb of the future not to get the valuable reps he needs now instead of three years from now when we are ready to compete.
    5. Clemens is accurate. J-mac and Coles have to catch those balls. Period!
    6. At this point our problems are way bigger than Chad v.s Clemens. IT starts with both lines. Chad+no line=no CHance. If we have no chance then we have to move towards the future. That future is Kellen not Chad.
     
  13. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    you feel that way based on Clemens 1 decent qtr,or his 3 horrible ones?
     
  14. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    See, that's the thing. We're heading into week 3. Three. Not 10, three.

    If we lose the next 4 in a row, then people can start talking about "let's give the kid a shot to prove himself." Right now, there is absolutely no reason, except a lack of physical health, that Chad should not be the starting QB.

    Unless of course all the Clemens fans want to scrap this season and concentrate on the #1 pick in the draft immediately. Then fine, let's just put Tui in while we're at it.
     
  15. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Why does starting Clemens automatically equate with not trying to win? I'm a little suprised at the Herm-esque status quo loving attitude of some Jets fans. We already know that Clemens is immensely more talented physically then Chad. What we don't know about yet is the "other stuff" and we're never going to find out with this attitude.
     
  16. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    What are you basing this on? 1 qtr? Chad puts us in the best position to win,until he proves otherwise. And when he has played full healthy seasons,he has done just that. That is why the professionals that make these decisions will have Chad as the starting QB case closed.
     
  17. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It's very possible that those 3 horrible quarters (and they were horrible) were first game jitters. That was my take, but I was wrong once before.
     
  18. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Yeah, and had he not let that pass slip through his hands in the end zone, we'd have been going to overtime.

    Chad's arm is obviously the sole problem this team has, and once he's gone, we're bound for multiple Super Bowl rings!

    I'm so glad this message board figured it out so our coaching staff doesn't have to!
     
  19. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    exactly. At that point,then Clemens get his shot.
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    thats why were here:lol:
     

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