Lastings Milledge

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  1. Carl Spacklers Grass

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    am I the only Mets fan who likes Lastings MORE after hearing his rap lyrics?

    When was the last time there was a real MLB star with "street cred"?

    evidently Lastings is too hood for some of you to handle.
     
  2. MSUJet85

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    I agree completely, imo trading Milledge because of this especially now since his value is down after the injury, is the exact type of stupidity that led to the Kazmir trade
     
  3. EcKo151

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    They took off the song on the website...

    L-Millz is still the man though.
     
  4. BIG COUNTRY

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    What a moron this guy is, glad hes the Mets future.
     
  5. Barry the Baptist

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    That was totally uncalled for, there was nothing irresponsible about what Lidle was doing. I know a few pilots and suppsedly the winds on the east river can be pretty treacherous. You should do some research before you call it iresponsible. Lidle was a good guy and he did alot for children in Las Vegas, Yankee or not I respect him for that and was deeply saddened by his death. It's not something that should be joked about.
     
  6. JoeJet

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    Why don't you check out what you are talking about, since you obviously don't know the facts. The final NTSB report said the crash was due to pilot error, and not affected by winds. And he was irresponsible since it was his plane flying into the side of a building, where they were obviously not familiar with the closeness of residential buildings to their flight path. Who has that responsibility? And so because he did work with children in Las Vegas, its not possible for him to be irresponsible also? Nice use of logic.
     
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    You gotta be fuckin shitting me. Lidle didnt purposely do that and he was a good guy that tragically had an accident. Milledge is a punk who is pissing off everyone. Maybe it was a pilot error but it doesnt need to be compared to Milledge and using that comparison is just bullshit.
     
  8. MobiusOne28

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    Agreed 100%. His value's most likely down, and with the SP pitching as it is there's really no immediate needs and it would probably just be best to see if he can pan out to replace Alou in left next year (with Gomez hopefully doing the same to replace Super Jew in right). If both of them somehow pan out, Fernando Martinez can be shifted to 1B to groom as Delgado's replacement, since he has the most questionable D of the three. IMO, that's the ideal scenario.

    At this point if Perez, Maine, and Sosa can keep it up, the Mets will have Pedro back next year and would be able to choose from Pelfrey, Vargas, Humber, or Mulvey for the 5th slot (assuming Glavine retires and El Duque's in the pen). I don't think there's any other type of player I would trade Milledge for other than a young established pitcher in this league, and at this point you'd have to give up too much for one of those considering the options already within the organization.
     
  9. Barry the Baptist

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    Listen to your logic. Because it was an accident it was irresponsible on his part. I didn't say it was the wind that caused it what I said was pilots have told me that the winds can be treacherous. Lidle was a legit pilot, he had enough hours to do what he wad doing. Planes fly down the East River all the time. It may have been pilot error but that doesn't make him irresponsible or in any way does it compare to what Milledge did. If you don't understand the difference I feel sorry for you.
     
  10. JoeJet

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    OK, lets go back to talking baseball.
     
  11. davecrazy

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    I love how Lidel is some sort of saint beyond reproach because he pulled a Thurman Munson.

    I guess if you wear pinstripes and put a plane into the ground your all-round-good-guy quotent goes through the roof.

    Before Lidle ate cinderblock he was a third rate throw-in player in the Abreu trade. No Yankee fan thought twice about him, except when they were thinking they didn't want him on the team next season.

    After he kills a few people (himself and his copilot) and injures twenty more we need to say his name in hushed reverent pinstripe tones and dip our fingers in holy water and make the sign of the Bambino. Maybe we can opine on how he was a true Yankee following in the glorious Yankee tradition...the whole 3 months he was on the team.

    As for Lastings, good for him. Haters can hate. Just because he added a stanza or two to a rap song dosent take away from him one iota.

    It's funny how Americas latent racism rears its head these days.

    Cocky black kids need to know their place, don't 'cha know. Those moronic punks.

    Lastings is a good kid, with sick skills on the diamond, and I hope the Mets don't trade him and he becomes a cornerstone of the outfield.
     
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  12. JoeJet

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    Shhhhh. Don't you know because he was a major league baseball player, no less a Yankee, he can't be criticized after death, despite putting hundreds of lives at risk? The final NSTB report called it pilot error, acronym for "not knowing what they were doing".
     
  13. BIG COUNTRY

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    Ive seen you revert to racism when people didnt like Keyshawn and now you pull the same bullshit with Milledge. Get over yourself. No one is calling Lidle a true and glorious Yankee, he was a family guy who tragically died in an accident. He didnt go around and kill a few people like he was a madman. Your obsession for the Yankees even makes someone with your iq look bad.
     
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    More than likely he'll be traded before the deadline. I think everyone in the mets organization is fed up with this guy.
     
  15. Barry the Baptist

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    Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Pilot error does not mean he didn't know what he was doing.

    The largest commercial aviation disaster in history (not including hijackings) was caused by pilot error. The pilot in this accident had 27 years and almost 12,000 hours of flying experience and was also KLM's #1 747 flight instructor. I guess he killed over 500 people because he didn't know what he was doing though.

    I could care less if Lidle was a Yankee, it's irrelavent. An accident does not mean irresponsibilty, it's an accident. You may have been in a single car accident were you irresponsible in that accident?. If Lidle wasn't a Yankee you wouldn't have so much hate for the guy. If he was a Met I almost guaruntee your tune would be a different one but because he played in pinstripes you have to drag the guy through the mud. Did he do some bad things in his life? Possibly but the guy isn't Hitler or Saloth Sar.
     
  16. JetBlue

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    that's absurd. an accident is clearly an indication of not knowing what you are doing. like this morning, I was brushing my teeth and accidentally spilled some toothpaste. 30 years of brushing my own teeth, and I come to find out today that after all these years I don't really know how to do so. but I am not going to let you illeviate my responsibility in this matter. I must hold myself responsible for my inability to brush my teeth if I ever hope to correct it and brush my teeth with the skill and ability that is safe for myself and those around. I just thank God that in all the years of brushing my teeth without knowing what I was doing that I never got a cavity or, worse, killed somebody. I was lucky.
     
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    :lol: Fantastic.
     
  18. davecrazy

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    It's not 'reverting' to racism, its pointing it out.

    The louder a player is, the more outspoken a player is, the cockier a player is, and the blacker a player is, the higher the likelihood that the media and some fans will accuse him of all sorts of negative things. "punk" "moron" "clubhouse cancer" "selfish" "not a team player" etc.

    Meanwhile cocky, loud, outspoken young white players (or players who English is not their primary language...and thus don't say a lot to the media) are lightly excused if not outwardly forgiven for the same behavior.

    To achieve to "he shouldn't be on the team anymore, he's a distraction" reaction from some fans alls one has to do if your flashy and black is guest on a hip-hop album.

    If you're white you need to pull a John Rocker and scream from the rooftops how much a bigot you are for anybody to say something, and even THEN there will be people who defend it. "taken out of contex" "blown out of proportion".
     
  19. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    I'm with you on this. Whether it's blatant or latent there definitely is a double standard. I mean, the hi fiving the fans thing last year, was that really so much more "disrespectful" then the dances Reyes does with people after they hit a HR?
     
  20. Barry the Baptist

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    I can agree with that.... how a guy like Rush Limbaugh with his Barrack the Magic Negro song is allowed to be on the air is sickening. I have no problem with Lastings or the song or the lyrics. It's freaking music, not end all say all. He's not out there saying critizing presidential candidates based on their race or saying a QB can do this beacause he's black.

    Where I have a problem is this being compared to a dead guy who accidentily flew his plane into a building in NYC. It's apples and oranges, nobody gets hurt with Lastings and his "rap".
     

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