Because it makes no difference who we sign. If he is under center it is all for naught because the story will end the same way it does every year in Ne, Indy, jacksonville, San Diego or some place else.
Fourthandlong, there are a lot of guys who agree with you. But what I don't seem to understand is why the NYJ CS disagrees so clearly that they plan to have another competition between Chad and Kellen this year? Groan, whimper, or complain this is what they keep saying: Chad vs Kellen. Don't you think we're better off if the best man wins that competition. Everybody on the team will see who is the guy. And both guys will have that BS offense down cold in case the winner goes down. We have two shots at running the BS offense well. Should be fun...
I just hope that both the Chad and Kellen camps are bitterly humilated when we draft Ryan , HAH! The only thing CP and KC are good for is bedding in the new oline ready for the new QB.
You know, you could draft a Ryan (instead of a McF), assuming he's available at #6, and he would have to compete for the job. If he were to win the competition behind this line against the NYJ QBs, then more power to him. The bottom line is as fans we're betting on this staff and this team. If the NYJ pick Ryan and he wins the starting position, so be it.
New day my friend. This team is as good as the Pats and after a year of getting used to a new system they will demolish us. They have equal if not better talent on both sides of the ball as the Patriots! And if Rivers progresses from last year it could get scary.
Since we're seeking to whip the Pats badly twice a year, I don't take it as a foregone conclusion that the Chargers will kick our butts either. Come one and come all!
We also had a very bad passing game in '06.... Honestly, we kind of lucked into the playoffs, as we weren't a good team in any respects, besides mayeb STs.... Chad, Curtis and Lamont were the three-headed monster that got us into the playoffs in '02. That is the ONE season I give CHad major credit for... The only one... In '04 we had the #1 running back in football, and a defense that pitched 7 second half shut outs... Chad wasn't half as bad as he was in '06 or '07, but he was NOT EVEN CLOSE to the reason why we made the AFCD playoffs..... We were an excellent team, and could have succeeded with almost anyone at QB that year... Case in point.. Quincy Carter went 2-1 in three starts that season.... The defense allowed 14 points or less in 9 of 16 games that season... We rushed for over 150 yards in 8 games that season.... Chad was awesome in 2002. The rest of his career? Meh
The idea of a competition for this offense is either an outright lie or another sign of a completely inexperienced HC. Reality we just spent a fortune to win now. Clemens if they really intend to start him needs all the starters reps in camp and all the starters reps in preseason. Anything less than that will hold him back from being ready. If they believe in him they go with him because if they don't they might as well hand the reigns to Chad now and unload Clemens now. If he is going to sit in year three they have one year to look at him before his walk year. All of this points to unloading Chad prior to the season or starting Chad outright and drafting a QB this year.
Quote: "...In '04 we had the #1 running back in football, and a defense that pitched 7 second half shut outs... Chad wasn't half as bad as he was in '06 or '07, but he was NOT EVEN CLOSE to the reason why we made the AFCD playoffs..... We were an excellent team, and could have succeeded with almost anyone at QB that year..." In the game at Pittsburgh, Chad was the leading passer with 182 yards. We lost that game because of a field goal, not because of Chad.
If Kellen beats Chad out in the competition fair and square, in the eyes of the NYJ CS, I say more power to him. But the winner of a trial by fire in the eyes of the CS and the whole team will be necessary to get the best season.
It will ensure that neither QB and particularly Clemens will be properly integrated with a completely overhauled OL.
So you think the CS is full of it? Okay, well, I think the NYJ CS is doing the right thing for the team. A competition in front of everyone, teammates and CS alike, is the quickest way to meld the team behind the winner.
Since we don't know what they are actually doing if they decide not to have a competition will the CS still be doing the right thing in your opinion?
Not that it matters at this point, but Roethlisberger was terrible that day, and so was Pennington (and Roethlisberger had 181 yards passing in that game, so your "leading passer that day" statistic is pretty ridiculous). CP dinked and dunked to 182 yards, but much more importantly led the offense to a grand total of 3 points (even if Brien makes the field goals that's still zero TDs). There is no question that he was at least as much at fault for that loss as Doug Brien and Herm Edwards were.
The whole offense stunk that day, if the O scores one TD in that game we wouldn't have been in that situation for Brien to choke away the championship game. I'm a Chad supporter and ultimately I lay the blame on Brien for not being able to make one of two makeable game winning kicks but if the Jets got better Qb play that day they are winning and advancing.
I'm with you... You can't necessarily blame Chad for the loss, because he didn't make too many critical mistakes- but that game was a classic example of just how hard it is to win in the playoffs with a 'ball control' QB, without a legendary D.... If you can't manage an offensive TD in a playoff game, your chances of advancing are slim to none.... That we were in position to win that game is a testament to how well rounded our team was that year- not necessarily excellent play at the QB position....
