Also, when you play CB in the slot, you generally get to have your eyes facing the QB on most routes that you have to face. Thus, you can focus more on chasing the receiver across the field while still being able to see the delivery of the ball.
OK, I agree then. When I hear someone say "ball skills" I think of ability to catch the ball, not the ability to turn and find it. I could be wrong in thinking that. Another issue he's had is just maintaining control of his body at times. I think that will come with experience though as he has shown good body control at times too.
I admit, i was screaming at Wilson through the TV Sunday night, "turn your efffin head around!!!"..........but as others have posted, he's better in the slot. the experience he's gaining on the one on one on the outside will be great in the long run. When Revis gets healthy, things will settle down for Wilson i think.
Yeah, the more i think about it, most people probably do use ball skills to just refer to a player's ability to catch and play the ball in the air. Also, I definitely agree with the bolded.
when i say ball skills i mean the ability to know when to turn around and locate the ball and play the ball not the man. that has been his biggest issue. he has no clue where the ball is, i'm always yelling to turn his head around. What your referring to as far as catching would be his hands, not ball skills and since he hasn no ball skills he hasn't had a chance for a pick Wilson is playing how most CBs do, we were just spoiled watching revis, who has the best ball skills i've seen in a long time. Its almost like a 6th sense
okay, so I watch NFL replay and his main problem is what most of us agree on: He doesn't get his head around. That's a normal rookie problem, and anyone who thinks he shouldn't play clearly doesn't know the game. 90% of the time he is in position, and is hip to hip with the receiver. I'm going to give a lot of credit to Henne and his vaginaforehead for putting the ball in a place where ONLY his receiver can make a play. Those are the types of plays where the CB is helpless and you have to tip your hat to the QB. His PI call had one positive, he knew Hartline was going to come back to the ball. The negative - he didn't turn and locate. If he did, he would have had an interception. The kid has potential. If you're not willing to have the patience.... GTFO. Pass one was Bess: Bess was out of bounds, pushed out by Wilson. Great play. Problem? He was called in bounds and the Jets did not challenge. So its on the refs and coaches. Pass Two: Bess again. This was a high throw that only Bess could get to. Great throw. Wilson was in position. If Henne misses by inches, Wilson has an opportunity to make a play on it. Pass three: Hartline PI call. He knew Hartline was not going deep and was coming back to the ball. The one problem was that he did not get his head around. If he did, he had an interception. Instead he runs into Hartline and gets called for the PI. Pass four: Harline underneath right side. Wilson was playing zone. Hartline went underneath. Henne found him. Okay, no biggie. Pass five: Bess runs an out route. Wilson was playing zone. Wilson broke at the right time, but Henne put the ball where only Bess could catch it. Leonhard got there late to try and jump the route. There were two others where you'd think they were Wilson, but it was Harris on Hartline and Wilson got there to help with the tackling. Pass Six: ah, here we go. Hartline gets a pass mid right about 8 yard deep and Wilson closes in and knocks it out of Hartline's hands. I bet this was forgotten. Last pass: Bess beats Wilson for the first. I just wish Wilson smack it out of Bess' hands to end the game. But Pool and Coleman took care of it. Nothing alarming. Let the game slow down, and he'll be baiting QBs like crazy.
^ Yep. The game thread was full of us commenting on that. I'm not worried about the kid at all, but it's a good demonstration of why it was silly to think we'd be fine going into the season without Revis.
Thank you. I only had the chance to watch the game once. It is good to know my eyes do not lie. The kid can cover and just needs to get his head around. That happens to every rookie CB that I have ever seen. He had the WR covered well otherwise.
The problem with the argument is that Revis was on the field for the entire Baltimore loss. We'd be 2-1 with an offensive loss and a win shared by the offense and the defense and an offensive win right now whether or not Revis was on the team.
Hats off. I see you did your homework. Great objective breakdown. He understands we need him to play big and he wont let us down. Guaranteed. VW
Thanks mick, it gets tough to recall a lot of passes when watching the game at a bar. He was definitely right there on most of the passes thrown his way, but got unlucky with Henne making perfect throws to Bess early on. Similar to the Ravens game he adjusts too late to the receiver going for the ball and never gets his head around - we all know that by now. This kills us with penalties, I think the PI was a 3rd and 19 or something. I was thinking though, it'll be funny if Wilson has a bad game and we all crucify him in this thread. Then surviveone comes in and everyone gets hush-hush to save grace.
I remember seeing a thread called "Bench Sanchez" or something similar after that Baltimore loss. I pretty much had my palm on my face every time I read a negative post. I knew the play calling was the only problem and not Sanchez because I knew he would rebound against the patriots, I even posted on my facebook that 0-1 is alright and the jets will beat the patriots. One of my friends said that Sanchez is terrible and Welker will run them all over, but guess what happen? Sanchez threw 3TD. The solution? Improved Playcalling. My point is that even if our new starters or young players seem like they are playing terrible, it's simply because of one mistake. A mistake that can be corrected as time goes by. I do believe Wilson will be a good CB if he fixes his one mistake of not turning his head around. And I can bet you that when Wilson learns how to do that at the right time, he will be a really good CB.
Thanks Vince. The only way I can relate (and its a weak comparison) is when I took up a brand new sport in hockey and the game was really fast at first and I didn't look the way I did in practice when the real bullets were flying. After a few games it slowed down and I was able to make plays. That's why I know it takes a while for anyone to get acclimated to something new and especially something faster, like the college game to the pro game. Same thing here. Its a matter of patience. Your brother was on the top of my wishlist for the Jets first round pick. When you get that honor, you don't suck. Revis and Sanchez were my other two since I've been on this board. :grin: I never got Matt Ryan in 08. But in hindsight Sanchez works out just fine.
True. The luxury is that we have a top CB returning to the team. When Revis does come back, I'd like to send Wilson at the QB more. He knows how to blitz and does it well.
I just watched NFL replay and I also agree the major issue with Wilson is that he doesn't get his head turned around. He really is not out of position much and that's huge. Considering he's played only 3 games though, I feel really good about him. He's gaining invaluable experience right now and should only improve as the season goes on.
lmao its the truth though. I'll go pull up the post where I said "ok, Kyle Wilson is officially my #1 pick for the Jets this year." And then all draft season it was beyond obvious he'd go earlier than 29. Goddamn right I'm gunna brown nose when I get the players I want. Fucking love being right.
Except that w/Revis being out of shape he wasn't used as he usually is. One could make a good argument that the Jets had a much better shot at winning that game if he were on Boldin the entire time instead of the Wilson/Cromartie combo.
Kyle Wilson has kind of a unique situation going at this point. It is really rare for an NFL team to draft a potential #1 CB in the 1st round when they already have a #1. It is almost unheard of to have that guy come onto a team with two potential #1's on the roster. It'll be interesting to see how things work out when Revis comes back.
